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Heavy marijuana use increases schizophrenia in men, study finds

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Re: Heavy marijuana use increases schizophrenia in men, study finds

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Post by Phlarp »

skissane wrote: post #208
dragonwriter wrote: post #204

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> (Hans Asperger famously used Autism diagnoses to euthanize children, that's who "Asperger's Syndrome" is named after!) Asperger was assigned to identify autistic children for exterminatiom, but mafe the case that certain ones were useful to the Reich, which is why “Asperger’s Syndrome” became the name for the manifestation of autism that was seen as a leader impairmemt.

He wasn't assigned to identify "autistic children" specifically for extermination. Hans Asperger was a psychiatrist. Psychiatrists in Nazi Germany (post-Anschluss Austria in his case) were expected to evaluate all of their patients for potential extermination, children included. Some psychiatrists refused to cooperate with the regime, at great personal cost to themselves. Other psychiatrists signed up to become enthu…

That sounds like "just following orders" with extra steps.

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Post by druidish »

atleastoptimal wrote: post #146
kitanata wrote: post #80

You have these cells in your brain called Microglia. They are responsible for cleaning up neurons and plaques and other weird proteins. These Microglia are activated by the firing neurons which release 2-AG and AEA (Anadamide). AEA binds to the CB1 receptor in these Microglia. 2-AG binds to CB2. THC binds to CB1. CBD binds to CB2. Autistic adults have significantly low blood serum levels of AEA. Autistic people’s neu…

So Schizophrenia is the opposite of Autism?

Some scientists suggest that schizophrenia is the human equivalent of domestication syndrome. Autism is also seen as a type of anti/counter domestication syndrome.

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Post by iamnotsure »

orthecreedence wrote: post #165
iamnotsure wrote: post #121

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Ingesting excessive amount of anything can cause harm. It's easier to die from water overconsumption or random allergic reaction than MJ. Spreading fear, misinformation or promoting prohibition is not humane. MJ is overall safer than alcohol.

I think it's less useful to compare marijuana to something that can literally be classified as a poison (albeit a legal and socially acceptable one) and more useful to determine the boundaries of "when is it safe to use this substance?" We're coming out of the era of "marijuana bad. marijuana addictive. gateway drug. gives you cancer. makes you kill your parents." etc etc and moving into actually trying to figure out…

I mostly agree with you. Overconsumption of MJ will cause falling to sleep, compared to death from overconsumption of water. MJ is not a cause of any physical or mental disease, despite claims from some purportedly scientific narratives; though it may make some previously hidden things more visible and possibly easier to fix. MJ is like a spice of spices or qualified tourism, certain knowledge, cultural context and practice is of utmost importance to get the most positive effects. Overall, handling MJ properly is easier, less dangerous and causes less problems than driving a car; while given some time, allows for healing of many ailments. Dealing with overconsumption / advice - start small in a safe context, like with mostly everything, oftentimes less is more. Want to learn to swim? - postpone the English Channel for a local pond. Practice shows, that overconsumption of MJ is mostly self correcting. I don't believe anyone should be excluded from the gift of MJ.

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Post by ggfyggfg »

Mike_12345 wrote: post #229
mandmandam wrote: post #219

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> Cannabis is blatantly toxic filth No, it isn't. It's medicine, and remarkably harmless recreation. It saves many lives, and enhances quality of life for millions of people. It has a smorgasbord of health benefits. It does have side effects, and drawbacks. It's not a panacea, and it doesn't suit every one. It's not for kids (except when it's medically worth it). But calling it "blatantly toxic filth" is wildly infla…

> No, it isn't. It's medicine, and remarkably harmless recreation. Try reading the article before commenting.

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Post by wktra »

CharlesW wrote: post #191

This is purely anecdotal, but it reminds me of the recent mental health revelation by Kevin Smith. He was baked all day, every day for 15 years, but quit cold turkey after checking himself into a facility for a month. I thought his discussion about it was interesting. Clearly there was other stuff going on, but he apparently felt his cannabis use was enough of a contributing factor that he decided to stop. https://ww…

As a former die-hard KS fan, this recent People Magazine spotlight/feature/confessional pretty much helped me realize he's a master carny-barker.

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Post by jokowueu »

kitanata wrote: post #182
jokowueu wrote: post #125

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FAAH inhibitors sound like a good idea .

… Sure… if you want to avoid the “side effects” of the current obviously available treatment options. :p

FAAH inhibitors do feel great though :p but obviously not as strong as "available treatment options "

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Post by mandmandam »

andreskytt wrote: post #244
mandmandam wrote: post #163

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> schizophrenic people are drawn to cannabis. I have no idea why I think that there are a number of reasons for this. CBD, exploration/play of mental states, and the hundred+ other cannabinoids may all be a factor. First, cannabis can contain CBD, which has strong, known anti anxiety and anti-psychotic effects. Couldn't a person vulnerable to episodes recognize this effect when enjoying a higher CBD strain, then seek…

Ah, the old shaman argument. The dude living in an essentially black-and-white wasteland up north with months of darkness. He strongly believes in the need to go consult the ancestors, moves in a hypnotic fashion, beats a monotone rythm on the drum for hours staring into a fire. And thus needs a minuscule plant-based push to have a profound experience. And still the old stories always have the element of being very c…

I don't think you understand my argument - and I certainly don't understand yours.

My argument is wholly secular and realistic. It's summed up as 'exploration/play of mental states', which applies even to your flashing-lights-and-technicolor straw-man.

It doesn't rely on 'hypnotic movements' or 'rhythmic drumming'; or a monomyth, or cultural surroundings, or 'they did it thus it's natural'. Or flashing lights, or wastelands, or ancestral visions, etc.

Perhaps you could read my comment again, with a little more care and a lot less caricature.

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Post by lakomen »

Old news.

I blame the highly potent breeds since NLX.

The THC concentration is so high that it's too much. Nowadays weeds are even more potent than NLX. Of course our brains can't handle that.

IMHO those kinds of super weeds are harmful and should be banned.

I'm speaking from my own experience and have seen many friends on stationary observation.

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Post by abhaynayar »

aatd86 wrote: post #40
mikhmha wrote: post #5

I really recommend people interested in Schizophrenia to read the book “Hidden Valley Road”. I saw it recommended in a HN comment previously. The book follows an American family who gave birth to 12 children, 6 of whom were later diagnosed with schizophrenia in their teens. It’s interesting because the book gives lots of insight into the historical to modern research on the condition. In the past psychologists though…

Genetic cause is often what is claimed of things that are not very well understood at all. Myopia being one of them for instance. (it's actually often an adaptation process that is actually found to be reversible) Wrt SZ, not only is it very badly understood but a lot of the symptoms can be attributed to biochemical disorders and that does not necessarily imply a genetic predisposition at all. Caffeine can induce psy…

Anyone here has reversed astigmatism? I've heard a lot about reversing myopia, and while I've seen a some stuff on the netz for astigmatism, I haven't found a good enough resource.
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