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Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Toyota already sells that. They even include a gas range extender for free with purchase! In reality the CO2-adjusted eMPG of most EVs purchased today won’t outpace the Prius for the expected life of the car.

* and has more than 25/40 miles of range.

“Range” is a euphemism for wasted lithium, cobalt, and/or copper that could be better used elsewhere (I.e., building more PHEVs). If your grid is natural gas you may as well bring your fuel with you.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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I want to see this legislated out of existence. To be clear, because every time this comes up some dickfucks come in here and start making excuses about how it's better to rent in some cases and that this is just amortizing the whole payment, and there are some people who want this: No. This is a fucking terrible deal even just using mercedes numbers. It takes a whopping 30 months (2.5 years) for the monthly payment…

If you don't like it, just don't buy cars whose performance is artificially limited. Let the market decide the issue.

And when the market decides to form an oligopoly and switch to the rent-seeking model, then what do consumers do?

It's bizarre to me that in 2023 there are still so many people who think that anarcho-capitalism works.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Thank you for being a voice of righteousness in a sea of simps. It’s hard to tell on this site, are people really this devoted to corps or are they shills? Even with what you said there are still so many people defending this behavior. The world is full of weak and/or deceitful people.

Simps is a strange choice of words for a post on hackernews.

Seems fine. Always go for Sir Mix-A-Lot nostalgia drips whenever I can get them.

Why do you think it is strange?

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Coming up next year - your macbook might run twice as fast if you pay additional 100$ per month. In my opinion such behaviour should be treated as a direct consumer rights' violation, under accusation of malicious intentional degradation of product sold to customer. When hardware (engine/cpu) is created it has its by-design limits and there is no possibility to increase those limits by software, i.e. this is not incr…

Perhaps it makes sense to pay extra to be able to put extra strain on something (laptop, car, xyz) while it's covered under a manufacturer warranty, however after such a warranty period ends any such feature should be unlocked.

That extra cost should be a one-time fee assessed when the feature is unlocked (with any extra costs borne by the manufacturer/vendor baked into that pricing).

Not a subscription that lives on for the duration of the device.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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post #165

I grew up around cars, and car builders. I've worked on quite a few very famous cars. My father built custom cars and ran "Barris Kustom" for years. I learned how to build custom cars, including race cars. I also spent years designing and building cars (vans) that quadriplegics could drive and lots of those were for guys who crashed, or got ran into by cars/motorcycle, at high speeds. Personally, I think if anyone cr…

Not sure if this is what you're saying, but the truth that nobody wants to hear is that cars are inherently dangerous because of their speed. The best way to save lives if have roads that encourage calm careful driving (bollards, single lanes, speed bumps, trees, ...). People want to have their cake and eat it. go as fast as possible, yet still be "safe". That's fighting against the laws of nature, weight + speed kills, it's just impossible to square that circle. We just need to internalize that in our hearts, and externalize this in our infrastructure.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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I want to see this legislated out of existence. To be clear, because every time this comes up some dickfucks come in here and start making excuses about how it's better to rent in some cases and that this is just amortizing the whole payment, and there are some people who want this: No. This is a fucking terrible deal even just using mercedes numbers. It takes a whopping 30 months (2.5 years) for the monthly payment…

Thank you for being a voice of righteousness in a sea of simps. It’s hard to tell on this site, are people really this devoted to corps or are they shills? Even with what you said there are still so many people defending this behavior. The world is full of weak and/or deceitful people.

A lot of people here think building a successful subscription based product is the absolute goal in life. To them Mercedes (and BMW and others) doing this isn't dumb - it's super smart and worth applauding. Otherwise you're just leaving money on the table /s.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Thank you for being a voice of righteousness in a sea of simps. It’s hard to tell on this site, are people really this devoted to corps or are they shills? Even with what you said there are still so many people defending this behavior. The world is full of weak and/or deceitful people.

Simps is a strange choice of words for a post on hackernews.

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Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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>are people really this devoted to corps or are they shills? I think a lot of people defend this because they themselves work for tech companies who's products or services are also profitable due to some for of rent-seeking which ensure great profits and wages that wouldn't be possible otherwise because let's face it, the most profitable SW companies where the HN audience most likely works at, don't sell you a lifeti…

Continually running a service with its own recurring costs with additional improvements (SaaS) justifies a subscription, because your product is constantly improving, and constantly incurring costs. A one-time car purchase costs the car company some capex upfront. They actually incur more cost running whatever DRM servers lock these motors down to prop up this extortionary business model.

Are you saying there's no rent-seeking SW out there?
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