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All states
Yeah, unless your job is the military. This is a 14th amendment issue.
*13th amendment.
Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
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Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
Uh, your link seems to be about the judge ruling that the workers can't be prevented from leaving their job.
If I sent you a link about a person's funeral to show a person had been born, would you not accept that either? The article is about the funeral of the order.
The workers were not held in contempt though.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Love it here, just looking for a new challenge” or “Love it here, but I couldn’t pass this opportunity up” have gotten me far. You can always be more honest behind closed doors if you want.
I'm impressed (and a bit envious) you were able to say that first part. I wish I'd worked at place where I could honestly say the same. Every place I've left, the best I could muster with a straight face was a bland tautological platitude — something like, "Oh, you know, just going to do something different." I don't exactly have tons of experience quitting jobs or ending relationships, but I've never understood the…
It's mostly just a ritual. After you've gotten past whatever pressures and inducements your management offers (or not) for you to stay, the exit interview is you pretending to seriously answer the "why" and HR pretending to care.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Life hack: Put your resignation in writing with a date in the future. This sounds like such a neat way to deal with it. I wonder if it's legally valid in my jurisdiction (in Sweden.) I have never heard of it but yet again, why not?
Termination dates are in the employment contract 99.9% in Sweden. At most you’ll get a “lmao, no”.
Notice periods are, as far as I know and in my experience, the _minimum_ number of weeks or months to give notice. Nothing is stopping you from giving notice earlier.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#255Will a company give you notice when they fire you? Especially if it's a toxic company? No. You don't reciprocate (as long as you're okay with burning some bridges - which should be fine with above criteria).
Even though I know OP lives in US: in Europe you get written down the notice period on your contract. If you decide to quit or if your company decides to fire you, both parties have to honor the notice period (usually between 1-3 months).
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#256No, no, no, no a billion times no to this absolutely not no The moment you give your resignation, there are good odds your company will say "we accept your resignation effective immediately. Goodbye." Sometimes it's a blanket company policy to do this, sometimes it's because they know you're going to a competitor and they don't want you to start training for your new job, sometimes they were on the fence about you st…
This doesn't seem correct to me. I've been in the industry coming up on 20 years, and I've never seen a company send someone home after putting in notice of resignation. Perhaps it happened and I didn't know about it, I can't rule that out, but I know that the majority of cases have not worked this way. It's difficult to imagine why they would do this, since it would remove all the cushion that 2+ week period would p…
> I've never seen a company send someone home after putting in notice of resignation.
only for people really underperforming, or going to a competitor
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#257Will a company give you notice when they fire you? Especially if it's a toxic company? No. You don't reciprocate (as long as you're okay with burning some bridges - which should be fine with above criteria).
Even though I know OP lives in US: in Europe you get written down the notice period on your contract. If you decide to quit or if your company decides to fire you, both parties have to honor the notice period (usually between 1-3 months).
I personally am okay with the American model tbf.
When I want to quit immediately, I don't want to stay miserable in the same job for 1-3 months. 3 months would be insane for me. As long as it works both ways (I can quit whenever, and you can fire me whenever) - it's fine.
Acceptable. Preferred even.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#258Totally dumb advice. I've tried to be the good guy several times and give my current employer a month of my time to crunch and write docs or whatever. It's usually stressful and doesn't make a huge impact in the end. Better to just offer 2 weeks and move to new role as fast as you can. Your new employer usually wants you to start ASAP, and they are what matters now that you already made the choice to move on.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
US corporate culture is such a horrifying shit show... Where is live, 3 months notice from both sides is a typical contract clause, and walking people who resign out of the door is unheard of.
To be fair, tech wages are much higher here. You can make 200k a year as an IC which is unheard of in Europe
Narrow perspective. What about all the other non-tech jobs?
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dumb question: why would you get severance if you resigned?
Because of resigned effective of a future date. Any termination of employment before then is either a with-cause firing or a layoff where severance is required. Seems like an interesting idea. Give as much notice as possible and then see if they bench you until then.
Severance is often paid (in at-will employment jurisdictions) just as a way to get the departing employee to sign a document agreeing not to sue, and possibly agreeing not to disparage.
I'm not an employment lawyer (but am a former lawyer), and I would think that if someone said they were going to quit way in the future, and was then fired, they would have a pretty poor case if they tried to sue. The company would credibly claim that it was not based on impermissible discrimination or retaliation, but was just because they assumed the employee would massively slack off.
There's also the question of damages — if you were about to quit anyway, then your damages would be relatively small because it would only be the salary that would have been paid between the time you were escorted out and the time you planned to leave. It could be $100k if you're very well-paid, but that pales in comparison to what you would get in a discrimination lawsuit (which is what severance agreements are seeking to avoid).
It would also be relatively difficult to find a lawyer who would take a case with a relatively small amount on the table, and an uphill battle in terms of proof.