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I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by TeMPOraL »

foolwhofollows wrote: post #237
TeMPOraL wrote: post #225

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> If you've spent all of the time and effort to put your audio collection on local storage that's also encrypted and mirrored, you are the audiophile audience! There are two main meanings of the word "audiophile". It can describe 1) a person whose music playing experience involves more than just the default music player app that shipped with their phone, and/or iTunes, and/or Spotify. It, much more commonly, also des…

Is there room in your paradigm for an audiophile 1.5? Someone who buys the $2000 pre-amp but knows full-well that interconnects are snake-oil; someone who knows that spending more than $1000 per separate will not be worth the money unless you have a dedecated listening room with accoustic panelling.

There is definitely a room in my paradigm for this category. There is room in my heart. This is who I aspire to be, if I ever feel like getting more serious about music. What I don't have, however, is the right term for this type of person. I just don't think they'll call themselves audiophile - they wouldn't want others to confuse them with the other "audiophiles" - i.e. the philistines (1) and the crackpots (2).

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Post by HollowEyes »

wldcordeiro wrote: post #105

It's funny Youtube Music was mentioned because Google Play Music was actually great for listening to your music and having a curated library of stuff you uploaded along with the music on the service. When they killed that in favor of Youtube Music I noticed the "library" experience there is seemingly intentionally hobbled. The artist page is sorted by the "artist" field not "album artist" and then on top of that inst…

It's a dumpster fire but for recommended mixes and the odd weird lifted from video rarity.

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Post by qikInNdOutReply »

I wonder wether some markets are just dead after a while. As in, all things that can be done have been done in all permutations, there might even be software generated plenty, and the product being eternal living, just never fades. Maybe releasing new music, movies, games one day will become the same thing. Without artifical scarcity, some markets will just die, just a computer being able to entertain tailored to the audience, with all tools, not needing a connection just a seed. I wonder what happens, if a ChatGPT version specialized on Art downstream, just becomes the computer of startrek, capable to visualize all and everything on the holodeck without the need for artists.

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Post by kristopolous »

kashunstva wrote: post #244
kristopolous wrote: post #185

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I can't experience this easily. Have a really small demo tier or a demo account, say with public domain classical and jazz standards, just something basic. The demo tier could be phone number based, then a write once system, let's say 100mb ... something really token. You could even have a few sample tunes everyone gets by default. Rhapsody in Blue by George Gershwin is in public domain for instance as are say, the r…

> Rhapsody in Blue by George Gershwin is in public domain for instance as are say, the rags of Scott Joplin, Debussy's Deux Arabesques, etc. I could be wrong about this, but aren’t individual performances of these works still protected? If I record an album of works by Debussy that performance isn’t in the public domain and couldn’t be used as sample tracks.

Yes. But they can also be in the clear depending on who does it and how they choose to license it.

If the performer doesn't mind and the work is public domain then it's an easy path

For example, here's the famous Waldstein by Beethoven performed explicitly as a free and open recording

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ludwig_van_Beethov...

Funny apocryphal story about that song. For a long time I had got in my head that was extremely disruptive for the time. I envisioned men with powdered wigs running distressfully throughout the aisles as he plays the work for the first time as their wives fan themselves and couch faint in the seats.

I still think that every time I hear it and I think it's hilarious to imagine European high society losing their composure over this sonata. This and Brandenburg Concerto No. 3 are ridiculously close to modern music structure. That's a 110bpm breakbeat done with violins you're hearing.

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Post by kwanbix »

kvirani wrote: post #164
grose wrote: post #155

I tried to make this after Google Play Music died, but I never found any success. Here's my site. You can try it for free: https://inter.tube It supports almost all of Subsonic (highly recommend play:Sub on iOS). FLAC works. I never re-encode your songs, they are kept byte-for-byte. It doesn't support Last.fm (yet?) but I don't think it would be too hard to add. It respects metadata tags. There are still some glitche…

This is awesome. Why do you think you never found success with it?

I will go with the home page has a very old-looking/nerd-looking look.

Did you ever try to promote it in Hydrogenaudio? Is "the" music enthusiasts forum.

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Post by HollowEyes »

siquick wrote: post #121
sen wrote: post #119

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> Oh man I thought I was the only one who still had a carefully curated digital library... I threw out my CDs a long time ago, but my digital library is my baby. I've been curating this since I was 10. It's who I am! You’re definitely not alone. I’ve been collecting MP3s since they first began, choosing 1-2 songs a night to leave downloading over dialup. I still have ever MP3 I ever downloaded short of deleting the f…

Have you ever bought any of that music you prize?

I have wasted so much money on music I barely bother with. Lots of stuff is a one play only for me these days and streaming suits that for experimentation. I do pay for ad-hoc streaming but don't get value out of it (time), nevermind the artists. And yet it's still better value than what I used to pay for records.

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Post by leemailll »

MVorlm wrote: post #76
Liquix wrote: post #24

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where do you notice performance suffering? hosting a 30k+ track navidrome library on a modest server and haven't noticed any slowdowns

In two places. The web client takes _minutes_ to load the artist page. It's slow enough that I get the Firefox warning stating that the page is slowing down Firefox. The web client (seemingly) doesn't load the song/tracklist in chunks and attempts to load every song at once(at least on the artist page). The second issue isn't specifically a "Navidrome" problem, but every iOS and Mac desktop client I've used(and I've…

I have no such issues using Navidrome (docker image from linuserver.io) with 150k songs. On the client i use sonixd which also have no problem running. It might be something on your server

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Post by husky00 »

conceptme wrote: post #188
locusofself wrote: post #184

I find it somewhat amusing that people have a problem with music streaming services as a consumer . Listening to any song you want is basically free, or for $10/mo you can listen in high quality and curate and download your playlists. As a musician or rights holder the streaming services are pretty bad in terms of getting paid. But as a consumer we are spoiled to death with ease of music access.

This is mostly true for pop songs any niche genre, especially a bit older is usually lacking on streaming services.

Another thing which is almost always impossible to find on any streaming service is covers, which for me is a deal breaker

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Post by alangibson »

mjevans wrote: post #249
alangibson wrote: post #218

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The negative reactions to you saying $15 are a good example of why there are no good Spotify and Netflix alternatives for people wanting to stream their own media. People claim to want it, but they put a very low monetary value on it. No new business can survive on $3 a month subscriptions.

At that price the transaction fees are large. ~35 - 36 USD a year? Depends on what's going on and the volume. Probably no support or paid per incident support.

Common wisdom is that you can't bootstrap for less that $50 per customer per month, and at $100 it actually becomes a business that can grow.

No one wanting to self-stream will pay that, so then you would need to look for investment to stay alive until you have scale.

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Post by happymellon »

christoph wrote: post #85
klooney wrote: post #80

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How old can an m1 mac mini actually be

In the UK businesses generally write computer hardware off over 3 years, or 5 years if it's a really extravagannt purchase, this little M1 is now written off from a business perspective... so... They make really great low powered, insanely fast & quiet home servers... It's a lovely time to be alive! :-)

They are still £500 on eBay, compared to the Lenovo micro systems which are less than 1/2 the price for a 10th gen and doesn't have everything soldered down it doesn't seem like a great deal yet.

I'll probably be waiting another few more years before I have an M1 for my home server.

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