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My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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> At this point we got distracted by trying to generate relevant images in DALL-E and Midjourney v5, and eventually didn’t continue playing the game.

To me, this is the most intriguing part of the story. Don't get me wrong, we all know that ChatGPT is incredible. However, it's interesting to think about why they didn't finish the game.

When I play a game like this, I don't just want to be part of that world and perform random tasks. I want a grand storyline, a sense of purpose. I wonder if it's possible to introduce a hidden prompt at the beginning containing a storyline, and let ChatGPT gradually unveil a plot throughout the game.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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I’ve not been hugely impressed by ChatGPT as a DM itself, compared to the humans I’ve played with. But as a tool to generate quests, encounters, puzzles, dialogue, it’s been incredible for me. It takes all the stress out of planning a campaign and it’s actually surprisingly creative.

I'm so easily impressed that even ChatGPT was enough for me to have fun.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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I just played a short campaign set in the Dresden Files universe. I started in 5e and asked ChatGPT to recommend a more appropriate system. It recommended Fate so I started over with that. GPT walked me through a different setup without stats and DM’ed a decent adventure. It understood nuances of how I used spells and let me capture a cult leader, imprison them and interrogate them to reveal more of the story.

ChatGPT might have suggested Fate because there is Dresden Files RPG that uses Fate:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dresden_Files_Roleplayin...

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The DM set up a potential hidden item, the player rolled high enough to find it, voila. I think the point here is that the "DM" has not set this up. From how I interacted with ChatGPT, and I have roleplayed with it before, it basically "Yes, and ..."-es everything you throw at it. In general this is good GM advice, but here it is "Yes, and ..." to a point were you can basically ask for anything and it will give it…

I think you're wrong about this. We experimented with nonsensical/cheating in other sessions and it's aware of your context and doesn't let you do stuff that you can't do. (Try it yourself and see. Quite mindblowing and defies the whole "only a super fancy markov chain" thing that some critics throw at it.)

Hmm ... might be GPT4 over GPT3.5? I have not tried the former for roleplaying yet.

Re: My kids and I just played D&D with ChatGPT4 as the DM

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what’s the DC of the check to get the guard to agree? Is it hard because that’s a baseline very dumb request? Or is it exceptionally easy because all of the facts from v3 are true? Putting together basic facts does not require you to be a charismatic person. The problem with relying on checks is you create situations where NPCs behave according to the Charisma stat of the PC they’re interacting with rather than th…

> So what’s the DC of the check to get the guard to agree? Depends on the situation. In situation 3, if all those things are factual and known, then for me it's a non-roll. Guaranteed to succeed. Otherwise it would depend on what's going on in the game. Are the guards on alert? Drunk? Etc. I'd start with a harder baseline (say 15-18 since guards aren't in the habit of handing out keys), and adjust from there. On aler…

If you agree that 3 makes for an easy roll, then it’s only an easy roll if you remember it and have thought it all through. If the player points it out when asking the guard, they have achieved the same outcome by making sure you and the guard you are role playing understand the situation via real world persuasion.

You’ve just shifted the burden of persuading the guard via roleplay to persuading the dm via contextual reminders which is less cool.

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