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Senate Bill to Ban TikTok

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Re: Senate Bill to Ban TikTok

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Post by withinboredom »

ononon wrote: post #234
withinboredom wrote: post #164

Maybe someone will scroll all the way down to this comment. Probably not. For half a decade, I have lived outside of the US, and I've watched as it has fallen to shit in slow motion. I make a decent chunk of income in USD and this terrifies me... but this. This move saddens me. There are only so many hours that congress has to make real decisions ... and this, this is what they spent their time on? Talking about how…

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I grew up in a time that there were 0.~ kids per year getting murdered in school. School was a 'safe place' (insofar you weren't a target for bullies). A place to have fun and learn things. The first time that happened, where a school was shot up. It literally (collectively) fucked us up for days/weeks.

I'm not advocating for guns to be taken away, I believe that ship sailed a couple hundred years ago. But Americans need to get their shit together, that's for sure.

Re: Senate Bill to Ban TikTok

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Post by tablespoon »

withinboredom wrote: post #164

Maybe someone will scroll all the way down to this comment. Probably not. For half a decade, I have lived outside of the US, and I've watched as it has fallen to shit in slow motion. I make a decent chunk of income in USD and this terrifies me... but this. This move saddens me. There are only so many hours that congress has to make real decisions ... and this, this is what they spent their time on? Talking about how…

But in any case, given that AI and automation will soon make the majority of US workers economically unnecessary, it's more important than ever for the powers-that-be to ban end-to-end encryption and guns and maintain full control over social media. Otherwise, the obsolete workers may resist their obsolescence and cause problems for capital instead of being gracefully attrited from society.

Re: Senate Bill to Ban TikTok

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Post by tomcar288 »

spogbiper wrote: post #233
tomcar288 wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worse than you think. This bill isn't really about Tik Tok. Read the fine print: people caught using a VPN could be thrown in jail for 20 years! It's about giving govt unchecked authority to throw people in jail.

can you point out where the bill says this? I'm not practiced in reading this kind of thing and struggling to find it

FYI: i heard about that in a news article, I didn't actually read the bill.

Re: Senate Bill to Ban TikTok

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Post by rvz »

humanistbot wrote: post #3

If the concern is privacy and security, which apply to all social media platforms, then why not pass actual privacy and security laws that would apply equally to all social media platforms, regardless of who currently owns it or may own it in the future?

The US regulators and government is not tired of collecting money from and imposing fines on all social media and tech platforms, hence why Facebook, Google (YouTube), Instagram, Snap, etc all have been fined by the FTC for privacy violations.

Facebook and TikTok are of similar sizes and have both violated the privacy of its users and since FB has paid a giant billion dollar fine to the FTC, it already makes sense to also fine TikTok on similar grounds including overseas access to US data by specifically targeting US journalists.

Re: Senate Bill to Ban TikTok

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Post by falcolas »

chimeracoder wrote: post #239
petilon wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This bill is absolutely horrific. In what way? Explain that, and let readers decide if it is horrific.

> In what way? Explain that, and let readers decide if it is horrific. The bill allows the Secretary of Commerce to unilaterally ban products associated with countries of their choosing, with a 20 year prison sentence for any US citizen who attempts to use a VPN to circumvent the access ban.

It’s also worth noting that the Secretary of Commerce is not an elected position.

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Post by throwaway29812 »

withinboredom wrote: post #164

Maybe someone will scroll all the way down to this comment. Probably not. For half a decade, I have lived outside of the US, and I've watched as it has fallen to shit in slow motion. I make a decent chunk of income in USD and this terrifies me... but this. This move saddens me. There are only so many hours that congress has to make real decisions ... and this, this is what they spent their time on? Talking about how…

> For half a decade, I have lived outside of the US, and I've watched as it has fallen to shit in slow motion.

Then you no longer know the place. According to media the US is nothing but school shootings and government censorship.

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