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Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by Nobm »

crazygringo wrote: post #239
lanna wrote: post #103

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Why does a desktop OS need to be consistent with a 5" touchscreen phone?

Because it's confusing to have two ways of doing things when one way works just fine. Why would you ever want added cognitive complexity? If things need to be different then sure. But if they can be unified in a way that works great for both then please do! Honestly, with their tight integration, I don't even think of watchOS and iOS and macOS as being so separate. They're all just a kind of "appleOS" that gets appli…

I’d love to chat with you in private regarding your work with Ok Cupid. How can I reach you?

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by noisy_boy »

jchw wrote: post #6

Raspbian* apparently. That's really interesting; even the highest tier Raspberry Pi still feels pretty sluggish as a desktop thanks to the limitations of SD card throughput/latency/queue depth/etc. I wonder what his usage looks like.

As per the talk, he is running scores of them - probably as multiple purpose-specific clusters.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by noisy_boy »

That is a hacker's hacker. Hacked a 50s jukebox that combines LCD display with manual switches and supports voice input to play the chosen song on a player's piano - from a catalog that spans a century.

Also loved the video of his wife enjoying the setup - straightforward and effective.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by binkHN »

kjhughes wrote: post #30

For those who might prefer text over video: Q: What's your operating system of choice, today? A: I have for most of my life, because I was sort of born into it, run Apple. Right now, recently, meaning within the last five years, I’ve become more and more and more depressed and [Laughter] what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious, but they are taking a lot of space and time to d…

> ...what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious...

This is exactly how I feel about Microsoft Windows.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by kagakuninja »

dagmx wrote: post #108
rasengan wrote: post #92

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Apple ecosystem is no longer software - only apps. It’s hard to do(code) normal things on the OS because of all of the fancy “security”

What code is prevented by security? Other than limits to kexts, your code isn’t beholden to most of the system security changes unless you specifically opt in to make a sandboxed app.

I have to deal with refusal to install apps from "untrusted developers" constantly, I can't even believe you wrote that.

For starters, the UI experience is terrible. You get a dialog telling you you can't install an app; close the dialog then you have to know to go to a certain Settings tab under Privacy & Security, and there will (hopefully) be some text that allows you to enable the app. This is a UI disaster. Maybe they do it so that non-technical users will give up in frustration.

Once MacOS decided that my official Oracle JRE was "untrusted", and I would get the bullshit dialog every time I started a Java process (note: I develop apps using the JVM). I had to google to learn some arcane CLI magic to disable the untrusted bits on my JRE files.

More recently, I couldn't get CIV 6 to run. Instead of telling you what to do, you get a "app is corrupted" dialog (maybe this was the fault of Steam). This required multiple enabling via the magic permissions tab. I mean, are Steam and Firaxis not "trusted developers".

All this pales in comparison to the pain when using my MOTU audio interface. Getting it to work was an enormous pain in the ass thanks to Apple security. And then MacOS would randomly decide to break things every 6-12 months, and getting it to work again requires discovering an arcane NVRAM reset procedure using magic key presses during reboot.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by sys_64738 »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #246
equivocates wrote: post #164

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Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I prefer my OS put several hurdles in front of a key logging app.

“keylogging” is such a moral panic. If applications can edit arbitrary files on the system it's already game over. I have no idea why people focus so much on “keylogging” as the supposed super important and dangerous thing. If one run any malware with the full file edit permissions of one's user account at that point in theory the only solution is erase not only the hard drive, but also every other drive on any other…

Oh I dunno, maybe because there's so few third party needs to log keystrokes from the user. When that need arises then you have to ask why...

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by avidphantasm »

web3-is-a-scam wrote: post #133
dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #87

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I don't think there are specific issues. The problem is that with each release of macOS usability, reliability and performance regress. If you're interested in these things and not so much in "bling" and questionable new features, then you'd share probably Ken's "atrocious" opinion. An example is the latest System Preferences. It's virtually unusable.

Seems overblown to me, been a macos user for over a decade and the ios-ification o f the mac hasn't been a big deal for me. My greybeard workflows still work the same (everything in iterm, using vim, tmux, all the "standard stuff"), sometimes updating xcode is a pain but w/e. Homebrew still chugging along. Parallels is fantastic. Performance of the M1 Max on my new mac studio is just heavenly. The changes to macos ha…

It’s fine if search is a way to use System Preferences. The problem I have is that since they turned it into a “big list” search is essentially the only way I can use it. They destroyed the spatiality of the app that had created grooves in my brain over the last 20 years. Now it is very disorienting to use because I can’t efficiently browse for things.

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Post by post_below »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #153
post_below wrote: post #137

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You can turn it off in Windows too, though it it takes a few minutes and requires some knowledge (or Googling).

My understanding is that you had to go into the BIOS to do it, if turning it off was supported at all.

Maybe you're referring to whether or not the core ability to wake from sleep can be disabled? I've never tried to do that, so I can't say.

In my experience you can reliably stop windows from waking in unwanted ways. I usually disable everything except input devices (keyboard, mouse).

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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Post by sys_64738 »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #87
burntalmonds wrote: post #75

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"..what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious.." Anyone know what his specific issues are?

I don't think there are specific issues. The problem is that with each release of macOS usability, reliability and performance regress. If you're interested in these things and not so much in "bling" and questionable new features, then you'd share probably Ken's "atrocious" opinion. An example is the latest System Preferences. It's virtually unusable.

> An example is the latest System Preferences. It's virtually unusable.

Most people are familiar with the iOS model already. It's rare to find Mac users who aren't.

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