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Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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HN is a little bit more “filtered” place: on Reddit and Twitter there are enough people who hate him just for the sake of hatred. He is Russian - they call him “fascist”. He has a road accident - they are intentionally omitting a little detail that a victim was crawling the road at night. I didn't know about the memes and Twitter jokes. Even after that post, people still try to blame him. I’m pretty sure this situati…

It's a misconception that people hate him for being r ssian. It's more like people dislike finding a consistent genocide apologist who has been publicly supporting the mass murderers for many years. This is a systemic position of his. In his late post he suggests that the murdered Ukrainians are somehow the same as the ruscist rapists who killed them. In the past he was shifting the blame for the r ssian fascist ethn…

Ok, thanks for this info - it is unacceptable and below the lowest level from his side. For this I despise him.

Still, all the hatred and memes appeared _before_ the war, so it is an example for other OSS developers of what they will get for their hard work.

Again, I didn't mean that people hate him only because he is Russian. I meant that weak people will use every excuse they can find to blame him. Nationality, felony, bad accent, even his quotes about the war - all of that was not so important when people decided to use his work, but all of that they use now to bark with the pack.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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> - The idea that companies would pay for a JS library that is patching browser support is wild. Companies make more money by having their websites work in older browsers. If it wasn't for core-js, they would be paying developer time to write polyfills or compile and maintain them from various other single polyfill packages. Surely if they are willing to pay developers to do this in return for increased profits they…

Polyfills aren’t some dark art, a 2nd year comp sci student could write them quickly as needed.

That's what I thought until I read the entire post and got to the part about duplicate polyfills due to the whole dependency mess. At that point I would give up on maintaining such a project.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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In my unasked-for opinion, he should absolutely give up on this project, and take a salaried job that'll let him support his family and not have to deal with the entitlement issues and lack of perspective the community evidently has. If half of what's in this post is true, he's shown admirable restraint: I'd have burned it all down the first time someone got pissy about a free thing I gave them.

> he should absolutely give up on this project

Nah, he should get creative.

1. Silently change the license to GPL.

2. Wait a few billion downloads.

3. Meticulously sue one company after the other.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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What would you say if you were in Russia? Would you publicly pour out your complete thoughts, whatever they may be, in a popular blog post with your name signed underneath? With an unfunded OSS project, a family to support and criminal history? Don't forget, you can't just "say stuff" in most corners of the world.

If you don't support the war and afraid to express your opinion, you can just remain silent and don't say that "both sides are equally bad". This kind is rhetoric is exactly what Russian war supporters use.

His comments were in response to an issue opened in the repo, it's not like he went out of his way to bring the problem up. If you take concern with him speaking with his family's best interests in mind (especially the "indoctrination" he is concerned about for his child), then stop using core-js.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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Live by MIT license, starve by MIT license. This is not the type of FOSS ecosystem that Stallman wanted to achieve; it's the ecosystem that big business wants: people work for free and profits multiply and accumulate at the top. That is what MIT licensing fosters. If you want a different world, use a different license model. Unfortunately, the JS world is effectively built on freeloading, so any licensing restriction…

> temporarily-embarrassed-FAANGs

This is fantastic, and it applies in so many other situations - I'm stealing this phrase (it's openly licensed, right?)

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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Daily reminder that humans are not good to each other (this doesn't mean we don't have the ability to be good to each other, but we generally are not)

How does Wikipedia or Open Street Map work if in general we are not good to each other?

Such a good question, the short answer is I don't know why we have Wikipedia or OSM, I could think of reasons for the specific examples but the heart of the question would still not be answered.

Another example you could have added is pro bono or volunteer work, one answer I could come up with is they wanted too. Maybe my response was a bit dramatic since we do have examples of humans being good to each other.

I'm willing to accept that I could be wrong. What do you think?

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It's a misconception that people hate him for being r ssian. It's more like people dislike finding a consistent genocide apologist who has been publicly supporting the mass murderers for many years. This is a systemic position of his. In his late post he suggests that the murdered Ukrainians are somehow the same as the ruscist rapists who killed them. In the past he was shifting the blame for the r ssian fascist ethn…

Ok, thanks for this info - it is unacceptable and below the lowest level from his side. For this I despise him. Still, all the hatred and memes appeared _before_ the war, so it is an example for other OSS developers of what they will get for their hard work. Again, I didn't mean that people hate him only because he is Russian. I meant that weak people will use every excuse they can find to blame him. Nationality, fel…

Before, as in 2012, right?

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The court documents on that case are publicly available if you're willing to look for them (and can read Russian). I haven't read everything, but I didn't see anything contradicting his side of the story.

he said he was "driving home at 3am," you know, as one does, and two girls were "crawling on the highway." i am honestly not sure i've ever heard a less believable story

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It's a misconception that people hate him for being r ssian. It's more like people dislike finding a consistent genocide apologist who has been publicly supporting the mass murderers for many years. This is a systemic position of his. In his late post he suggests that the murdered Ukrainians are somehow the same as the ruscist rapists who killed them. In the past he was shifting the blame for the r ssian fascist ethn…

This is your brain on reddit. There are few positions more level-headed than “war bad, but bombing civilians also bad”. Can you consider that neither Putin nor Zelensky are good people?

It's a fabricated propaganda point.

> The fighting continued, the civilians were dying, children as well as adults. OSCE statistics (2017-2020) showed that the number of civilian deaths in the occupied territories was almost twice as high as in the unoccupied territories. Another independent report from the International Crisis Group gives the following explanation: “The higher civilian casualty rate in non-government-controlled areas is due to the fact that these places are more urban and populous[…] Together, the numbers suggest that neither side is trying to hit civilians but also that combatants are not doing all they can to avoid collateral damage.”

> The death of the children should be addressed separately. “Why were you silent for eight years while children were killed in Donbas?” sounds as if Ukrainian army is shelling children. But OSCE suggest other causes of death: 87% of boys died because of being careless with explosives. In this context, the International Crisis Group also recalls Russian propaganda, for example, when “they announced that a Ukrainian drone strike had killed a five-year-old boy in a Donetsk suburb. In fact, the boy had died some 15km from the front, out of the Ukrainian drones’ range, possibly by setting off an unexploded shell he found in his yard.”

> According to the OSCE, mines and other unexploded armaments are the second most common cause of civilian casualties in Donbas after shelling with heavy weapons. The international crisis group criticizes Russian militants in this context: “Meanwhile, de facto officials tend to be unwilling to admit that shooting from positions in areas like the Donetsk suburbs can provoke return fire and lead to civilian deaths. They have baulked at suggestions that they move their troops to keep locals out of the line of fire.” The shelling from residential areas of the occupied territories was also reported by Bellingcat. On the other hand, the International Crisis Group blames Ukraine as well: “Public figures in government-controlled Ukraine sometimes overlook or minimise the problem of civilian casualties from live fire. Losses among civilians frequently do not make it into Ukrainian news reports, partly due to journalists’ lack of access to reliable sources in areas across the line; media tends to focus on the heroism of government troops.” It is possibly the only argument in favor of “eight years of silence” claim.

https://rpr.org.ua/en/news/eight-years-deconstructing-the-mo...

If you look at the casualty figures, the civilian deaths have been around two dozen per year for the last few years; half of those have been from mines and such. About half the remainder have been from active hostilities, e.g. shelling. Russia didn't start this war over six civilians a year dying from shelling in Donbas.

Re: So what’s next (personal news from developer of popular CoreJS polyfill)

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But the thing is he DID ask for help, quite a few times and was only met with the hate and vitriol you mentioned. Depressing indeed.

You have to ask to the appropriate forum though, and that's what he got completely wrong. Getting npm to scream for help when a developer installs your package is equivalent to asking your peer for a raise. I'd say that over 99.999% of the people who saw that message, created memes about it, etc.. did not have a corporate credit card and the power to use it at their discretion. If you want money from corps, THOSE are…

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