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Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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More men are going to go through this regardless of whether he sues or not. I can't imagine people who would do this kind of thing being deterred by a small civil claims court case somewhere random.

It’s not deterred because the idea that men will actually stand up for themselves is so low. Mixed in with systemic sexism against men in the courts of course If you want to change that, men have to hold themselves accountable for protecting themselves against women. You might not like that reality, it’s not a good one, but it’s true.

Civil court cases don't change anything, it's just dispute. And I don't think it's issue with sexism against men. I think it's social and judicial issue. I think it's good that people can come out and without expecting any harm accuse someone who caused harm physically or emotionally. But you will have people who will try to exploit the system to gain some lavage. Do you think social view on me gonna change if she was charged with false accusations? Nope, many would say not only I got away with it but also got her into trouble. And it doesn't remove charges from whatever blacklist I'm on. Issue is deeper than just sexism.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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You know, I don't know how practical this is but I've been feeling for a long time that all accusations should be kept confidential (enforced by the court) and trials not be at all public until a verdict is reached. We're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, but people treat others as guilty until proven innocent with some of these accusations.

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Not quite as damaging, but I was accused of harassment from some blue-haired weirdo on a video call with nearly a hundred people at work. Like you, this was a person I had zero interaction with prior to the call. I considered getting a lawyer involved because I feared this could blow up, but was talked out of it by my boss, who asked me to apologize and "let's leave it at that".

So you apologized to someone you had no interactions with for harassing them, even though the claim was false?

No, I didn't communicate with them ever again - but my boss wanted me to apologize to "help clear the air". My boss was worried about their position, and went with the best option to help their own career if things blew up.

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> I always expected capitalism to eat itself, but not like this... not like this. "From each according to his ability to each according to his need" is not capitalism. "Capitalism" most certainly doesn't value equality or diversity.

Yeah, that's kinda of my point. Google is a incredibly successful capitalistic entity, but is punishing an employee for being biased in favor of ability. Favoring ability is rather core to capitalism.

That's meritocracy. The core to capitalism is contingent on spending capital to gain more capital, whether this is done through merit, politics, marketing, or what have you.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Rupert Murdoch rag is not a reliable or credible news source. If this story is importable it deserves to be cited from a source that people will respect.

Its copied from the NYpost https://nypost.com/2023/01/28/google-exec-fired-after-female...

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Without passing comment on the case, this guy appeared to go to 3 further work events including alcohol after the incident. Why do people put themselves in these situations at work? I'm nervous having even 1 drink with work colleagues in todays day and age, let alone getting plastered 3 times with the same people after an incident.

Tribism.

There are some positions that require you to follow set of unspoken rules just to belong. It’s both proof of inclusion and signaling.

Depending on place there might be different factors. It can be as simple as attendance, but it might also be about attire, jewelry, watches, presence during cultural events, who knows who etc. etc.

American Psycho’s business card scene is a nice if overdrawn example. Seemingly unimportant object is fetishized. In reality those behaviors are usually much more subtle and can take form of: don’t attend when invited, you won’t be invited ever again.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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I worked at a company a few years back where the hiring manager for the engineering and product teams proudly exclaimed that she would actively go against hiring a man, until the teams were at minimum 50% women and would maintain this ratio once she reached that goal. Totally admirable intention, for sure (if only viewed from the lens of strict equality). But I’m sure the 90% of applicants that were male wouldn’t see…

“Totally admirable intention” What? That’s not admirable at all. That’s blatant sexism. “(STEM is 100% historically discriminatory to women)” Lol no, if anything it’s clearly discriminatory towards men in the false assumption that low female population isn’t an internal cause

I posted these links elsewhere in the thread, but I'll post them again. Pretty much every job has a gender imbalance to some degree or another.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/E...

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/software-deve...

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

I really wonder about press standards in this case. Both parties are not public figures. Is it normal 8n the US that both are named and pictures are published. I think here in Germany typically at least a pseudonym would be assigned to protect the individuals. Is there any law to protect personality rights in the US?

No, there should be, but then politicians couldn't post mug shots of minorities when they are trying to scaremonger votes.

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> Olohan said he began feeling increasing pressure from his supervisor, who told him that there were “obviously too many white guys” on his management team. In July he was encouraged to fire a male employee to make room on his team for a woman, the suit claims. This is the most crazy section. Why physical characteristics like gender or ethnicity should be important in the management selection? And if yes, why only th…

Sorry mate, there is no place for rationality in US diversity politics.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Why would a bank care if someone once accused you of a crime?

This was my question too. Pretty sure banks just never do background checks just to hold accounts.

Hold account sure, debit card, easy. Credit cards, loans or mortgage good luck getting. Actually murder or financial crimes, and many other types of crime is tolerable by banks
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