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Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by charcircuit »

daveFNbuck wrote: post #56
jakeinspace wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The second half of that explanation is completely wrong though, isn’t it? There is no active signal being sent from your GPS antenna, no two-way communication.

The first half is wrong too. GPS has nothing to do with satellites being able to see lots of things from high up. The whole thing is just nonsense that looks plausibly like an explanation until you try to decipher it.

>GPS has nothing to do with satellites being able to see lots of things from high up.

It does in a sense because the radio waves need an approximate line of sight to reach your GPS receiver. Being high up gives them a large coverage.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by lovelearning »

Sometimes I want deep discovery and filtered UI for product searches.

And other times, I want Star Trek-style omniscient chatty search: "computer, select a blue woolen sweater $50-100 that ships before Tuesday."

Both types of searches are necessary. ChatGPT is already one of my frequently-used search engines now, especially for conceptual overviews.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by michaelsalim »

pbronez wrote: post #245
ravenstine wrote: post #181

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I know this thread is about ChatGPT, but if you're still using Google then I suggest giving Kagi a try. It's a paid search engine, but I've been using it for quite a while now and really enjoy it. With Kagi you can rank and downrank domains as well as block them. There's also this think called "lenses" which are basically filters for specific kinds of searches. For instance, I have a "Programming" lens and a "Academi…

+1 for Kagi. The lenses and customization are nice, but I switched just for the raw query speed. It’s the snappiest service I use daily.

Really? I'd +1 for kagi too. But I have 2 problems with it. The first is the load speed. Sometimes it just takes so long that I just repeat my search to Google, especially on phones. By long I meant a few second so it's not that bad. Just long enough that I lose patience.

I'm not sure if it's issues with my connection since I rarely go to Google nowadays. But I never felt the same problem with Google.

In case you're curious, the second issue I have is with private browsing. The session is not carried over so I'm not logged in. I keep forgetting this and kept having to manually open Google and retype my query. I guess not technically Kagi's fault but still.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by Gigachad »

mfDjB wrote: post #171

For me, Google Search just doesn't seem to be getting better over the years, if anything its getting worse. I honestly feel like its hard to get what I want half the time with all the SEO spam, most of the time I have to input "inurl:reddit.com" just to get good results. At the same time, ChatGPT has frequently impressed me, not with everything (my expectations are reasonably low) but it has performed amazing work fo…

I’ve been going to ChatGPT first for most questions these days and then using google to verify. It’s easier to verify than find an answer from scratch. And often ChatGPT will rephrase my words to use the standard terminology for the topic which makes searching even easier.

To complete the cycle, ChatGPT just needs to be hooked up to verified sources on topics so it can show me exactly where what it says is proven true.

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Post by blep_ »

eternalban wrote: post #154
rapsey wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bill is already largely footed by MS probably. OpenAI and MS are a partnership and they run on azure cloud.

I asked ChatGPT to emulate various OS's, including Linux and DOS. On a linux emulation, I had it curl whatsmyip.com. This bit was in the response: 35.230.98.61 That's a google property. I wonder if it was trained on google's cloud.

Or, more likely, it made up a plausible IP address.

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Post by kursus »

pixl97 wrote: post #200
mrtksn wrote: post #192

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> Personally, I wouldn't go long on search engines that don't have a strong ML component to them in the future. Arguably, it's the ML that made Google useless for some people. Since some time, Google seems to be curating it's results to address searches in a question format. In the past we were searching for occurrences of our keywords in webpages but today Google seems to be trying to be an answer machine. Unfortuna…

>In the past we were searching for occurrences of our keywords in webpages I mean that died decades ago when spammers just made pages with your word repeated over and over again. Spam makes everything worse.

> I mean that died decades ago when spammers just made pages with your word repeated over and over again. Spam makes everything worse.

No there was a long blessed period of time between the solving of spam and the introduction of altered results.

Re: ChatGPT won’t replace search engines any time soon

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Post by pearl20 »

Gigachad wrote: post #255
mfDjB wrote: post #171

For me, Google Search just doesn't seem to be getting better over the years, if anything its getting worse. I honestly feel like its hard to get what I want half the time with all the SEO spam, most of the time I have to input "inurl:reddit.com" just to get good results. At the same time, ChatGPT has frequently impressed me, not with everything (my expectations are reasonably low) but it has performed amazing work fo…

I’ve been going to ChatGPT first for most questions these days and then using google to verify. It’s easier to verify than find an answer from scratch. And often ChatGPT will rephrase my words to use the standard terminology for the topic which makes searching even easier. To complete the cycle, ChatGPT just needs to be hooked up to verified sources on topics so it can show me exactly where what it says is proven tru…

Agreed. When searching at Google I can alteast decide which website I am going to trust as I can directly see the website URL and information there but with ChatGPT we don't have that advantage yet.
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