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Post by wyclif »

Werewolf255 wrote: post #203
chollida1 wrote: post #15

There is an old joke, how do you know that someone is a vegan or does crossfit? You'll know because they'll make sure you know minutes after meeting them. In 2008-2011 on HN if someone worked at facebook you knew because they mentioned it so often. Now you never hear anyone saying they work for Facebook because of all the negative externalities that Facebook and Instagram have had on the world that no one wants to be…

> Its hard to think of another company outside of Facebook that has blown all their good will so quickly and so completely. Twitter comes rapidly to mind

The difference is that Twitter is better than it's ever been now, while Facebook and Airbnb continue to deteriorate.

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Post by blairbeckwith »

dmix wrote: post #247
blairbeckwith wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think based on context it's clear they mean "regulated like hotels".

How exactly do you regulate it like hotels without changing the legal structure? Hotels either directly run their various locations (aka run by their employees) or franchise it. That's a totally different business model. So just saying "regulate it like hotels" doesn't mean much.

You would do it by changing the legal structure, but not by requiring any employees of Airbnb to manage the properties themselves, any more so than TripAdvisor employees manage hotels today.

Require Airbnb hosts to pay for a license, have regular inspections, etc.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by femto113 »

duped wrote: post #57
medellin wrote: post #9

Airbnb most recently has continued to ignore requests to remove houses that violate the building’s HOA where i live. People have been turned away when they show up by security as it’s not allowed but the people just try to sneak them in. When reporting this to airbnb they refuse to do anything. I’m getting fairly sick of the laissez faire stances these companies are taking. It’s not just that we don’t want airbnb its…

AirBnB's entire business is predicated on skirting regulation. The problem isn't that they don't care, it's that caring would cost them money and invalidate their business model.

The entire "gig economy" would be much better named the "scofflaw economy". Far more than technology, a willingness to deliberately ignore laws/rules/regulations/decency is the core competency of AirBNB, Uber, GrubHub and pretty much every other major player in the space.

Re: Airbnb removed my negative review

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Post by [deleted] »

fallingknife wrote: post #119
throw_m239339 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber and AirBnB were always shady, both services were heavily subsidized by VC money in order to acquire customers. Now that these corporations went public, they stopped with the charade and are aiming at making as much profit as the business they claimed they "disrupted".

Airbnb lets me rent a whole apartment for a couple weeks. Couldn't do that before. And Uber is so much better than the cabs it replaced that there can't really be any comparison. It's not just about price relative to competition.

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Post by canucklady »

ptspts wrote: post #226
greggman3 wrote: post #202

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AirBnB sux but zoning has arguably been a net negative on most societies in many ways https://youtu.be/bnKIVX968PQ https://youtu.be/CCOdQsZa15o for me what I noticed lately is that in California it's impossible to have a quiet modern apartment because nearly 100% of modern apartment buildings are only allowed to be built on busy noisy high traffic streets. If you want a quiet street you're forced to buy/rent a house

Is it possible to build proper noise insulation, which makes the house as quiet as the a house in a quiet neignorhood, to a newly built, modern apartment house? I think it is, but construction companies are trying to savd a few cents, and they don't add proper noise insulation.

Where I live the zoning laws require better noise isolation for new builds on major roads, because this is such an easy way for investors to save money and screw tenants.

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Post by dmix »

blairbeckwith wrote: post #252
dmix wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How exactly do you regulate it like hotels without changing the legal structure? Hotels either directly run their various locations (aka run by their employees) or franchise it. That's a totally different business model. So just saying "regulate it like hotels" doesn't mean much.

You would do it by changing the legal structure, but not by requiring any employees of Airbnb to manage the properties themselves, any more so than TripAdvisor employees manage hotels today. Require Airbnb hosts to pay for a license, have regular inspections, etc.

Right, so you're not regulating AirBnB directly really, you're regulating the local AirBnB hosts.

And how does this help with reviews on airbnb.com?

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Post by fma »

rootusrootus wrote: post #184
x86x87 wrote: post #166

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I'm gonna disagree with this one. People chose to put uo with HOAs because 1) most new developments have them 2) SFH w/ HOA are more expensive

For every HOA that gets a Reddit post complaining about unreasonable behavior, there's a dozen others that just effectively keep people from turning their front yard into a wrecking yard, and probably a hundred others that don't enforce anything at all but just keep the common areas mowed.

My county has laws about turning your front yard into a wrecking yard...def should look into it if you experience severely unmaintained yards or overloaded with trash with unmovable cars.

But whether I cut my grass every 2 weeks or every 3 weeks, or god forbird I decide to have a vegetable garden on the southern side of my house (covenance says must be backyard)...that's HOA realm.

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Post by birdyrooster »

rootusrootus wrote: post #184
x86x87 wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm gonna disagree with this one. People chose to put uo with HOAs because 1) most new developments have them 2) SFH w/ HOA are more expensive

For every HOA that gets a Reddit post complaining about unreasonable behavior, there's a dozen others that just effectively keep people from turning their front yard into a wrecking yard, and probably a hundred others that don't enforce anything at all but just keep the common areas mowed.

The associations are often mismanaged horribly because they are mostly lead by people that just want to use the power to get the changes they want to their property, and sometimes (this is not rare) the board will use lawyers to write letters coercing behavior which may be against the HoA constitution, also sometimes to save a buck they will operate based on policy which was voted by the board that is unconstitutional and has not been amended by owners. The only way to rectify this is to put your real life on hold and create a political movement against the board and/or hire attorneys to get them to settle, litigate, or start a class suit, which might I remind you will probably retaliate against you and waste more of your time. Meanwhile the HoA's liability insurance premiums will go through the roof from hiring attorneys to defend themselves and so will your HoA fees. Lawyers love HoAs.

Have heard about this from friends and family more than once.. it would be comical if it didn't impede their ability to live so much.

You may as well be renting from them. No, thanks!

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Post by georgyo »

I had a similar experience recently. After the booking was confirmed the host sent us a website to fill out and asked for our credit card number for a deposit.

This sent off a lot of red flags as AirBnB specifically says not to compile with this.

Calling AirBnB was useless. They confirmed that we should not pay the deposit, but it was up the the host to cancel our booking since it was less than 24hours away. AirBnB says as long as the booking is active then we have a right to be there. I share AirBnB's response with the host and they said they would call the cops if we showed up.

Two more calls to AirBnB, including one the morning of the booking and they still needed the host to cancel the booking. And since I "requested" the cancellation the host wasn't charged for cancelling my booking the same day.

After using AirBnB off and on for several years, this left a very sour taste.

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Post by nibbleshifter »

welshwelsh wrote: post #217
jeroenhd wrote: post #129

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This analysis about the impact Airbnb was having on Amsterdam disagrees: https://www.ing.nl/zakelijk/kennis-over-de-economie/onze-eco... The city has passed laws to keep down the amount of temporary rentals so the balance has undoubtably shifted by now. A later analysis by the same bank ( https://bnb-beheer.nl/blog/2019/03/06/prijseffect-airbnb-op-... ) says as much.

Ok, so ban AirBnB and more housing is available for people who want long term leases... but there's still a problem, because now we have a shortage of temporary housing. Any solution that isn't "build a fuckton more housing units" isn't a solution at all. We need enough housing for permanent residents AND people who prefer to live in AirBnBs. Often the AirBnB people are wealthy tourists who spend a lot and stimulate…

> Often the AirBnB people are wealthy tourists who spend a lot and stimulate the local economy, so kicking them out is a horrible idea.

Amsterdam specifically wants less tourists.

They have a load of initiatives and policies to try reduce what they call "negative tourism" that are will just have the net effect of reducing overall tourism - the actual goal.

Similar issues in Venice and some other European cities.

Over tourism makes places less liveable for the residents who live - and vote - there.

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