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Post by dpifke »

m-richthoven wrote: post #231
mikojan wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you tone-policing someone for pointing out that a given example is not supporting the actual theory?

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Re: “My PGP key is compromised, and at least many of my bitcoins stolen”

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Post by int_19h »

woodruffw wrote: post #227
azinman2 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW the GP didn’t say US; there are many more intel orgs and govs desperate for money than the US.

Sure; I'm curious which intelligence organization you (or the GP) think is most likely, then. Keep in mind that (1) most intelligence organizations and clandestine services operate with even less oversight than the US's, and (2) all available evidence points to Satoshi Nakamoto being an L1 English speaker who was mostly active in Western European timezones.

If you're assuming that Satoshi was a spook, wouldn't the use of L1 English and Western timezones more likely to be an attempt to obfuscate?

Re: “My PGP key is compromised, and at least many of my bitcoins stolen”

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Post by MisterBastahrd »

lizknope wrote: post #187

I needed a good laugh to start off the new year! Couldn't have happened to a more awful person. https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4936kw/lukejr_is_...

Yeah, I'm not sad about any of this. The guy is an ivory tower conspiracy theorist and moralistic extremist whose crazy apparently does not reach to the point of doing the bare minimum to ensuring that his stash was safe. Not even the first time he was hacked in the past 2 months.

Re: “My PGP key is compromised, and at least many of my bitcoins stolen”

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Post by bbbbb5 »

r1ch wrote: post #150
technion wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming this physical access claim is truthful (and i have doubts), I would feel at this point its budget letting him down. If your threat model includes "targeted attacks from people with physical access", it's time to run a vm on aws or azure and use the tooling they make available to secure it further. If you want tonnes of resourcing at a quite low budget, there's only a certain amount of "calling out" the group…

I believe most of these "physical attacks" are datacenter support teams being socially engineered and not state-level actors. They hook up a USB rescue drive to "help" you back into your server, using full disk encryption or locking down the BIOS can thwart such attacks.

Not necessarily SE, there's been tons of 0days exploited against stuff like WHMCS, Hostbill, Kayako and many other systems used by hosting companies to manage this kind of thing.

Colocation and epoxy in any relevant ports is the obvious way to avoid this.

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Post by willnonya »

spicymaki wrote: post #76
samwillis wrote: post #42

Context now that the editorialised title has changed, this is a core Bitcoin developer. These things happen every day, but happening to a core developer (if confirmed!) who has a deep understanding of the systems and security indicates just how fragile crypto can be (in my opinion)

Exactly! if the experts can’t secure their accounts, what hope does anyone else have? Soon you will see people saying you should have done this or that complicated thing, or how somebody so smart could should have known better. No matter what they say it is never enough. This is why lack of consumer protections suck.

"This is why lack of consumer protections suck"

So, rather than the consumer being responsible for their actions you support consumers engaging in whatever risky behavior they like as long as someone else is there to protect them or give them a do-over?

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Post by willnonya »

tmpburning wrote: post #185
samwillis wrote: post #42

Context now that the editorialised title has changed, this is a core Bitcoin developer. These things happen every day, but happening to a core developer (if confirmed!) who has a deep understanding of the systems and security indicates just how fragile crypto can be (in my opinion)

> These things happen every day, but happening to a core developer (if confirmed!) who has a deep understanding of the systems and security indicates just how fragile crypto can be (in my opinion) Because no one can create secure software yet, Bitcoin isn't 100% secure.

What percentage secure would you say it is?

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Post by dang »

lizknope wrote: post #187

I needed a good laugh to start off the new year! Couldn't have happened to a more awful person. https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4936kw/lukejr_is_...

Please don't post like this to HN. Perhaps you don't feel you owe devs who lose their Bitcoins better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re: “My PGP key is compromised, and at least many of my bitcoins stolen”

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Post by sp332 »

willnonya wrote: post #255
spicymaki wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly! if the experts can’t secure their accounts, what hope does anyone else have? Soon you will see people saying you should have done this or that complicated thing, or how somebody so smart could should have known better. No matter what they say it is never enough. This is why lack of consumer protections suck.

"This is why lack of consumer protections suck" So, rather than the consumer being responsible for their actions you support consumers engaging in whatever risky behavior they like as long as someone else is there to protect them or give them a do-over?

Consumer protections protect against fraud. Not "risky behaviors".

Re: “My PGP key is compromised, and at least many of my bitcoins stolen”

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Post by jnsaff2 »

willnonya wrote: post #255
spicymaki wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly! if the experts can’t secure their accounts, what hope does anyone else have? Soon you will see people saying you should have done this or that complicated thing, or how somebody so smart could should have known better. No matter what they say it is never enough. This is why lack of consumer protections suck.

"This is why lack of consumer protections suck" So, rather than the consumer being responsible for their actions you support consumers engaging in whatever risky behavior they like as long as someone else is there to protect them or give them a do-over?

Well the "trust me bro" marketers (and developers) have told them this is all good. Is it responsible, idk, probably not.

Then again, the point the GP seems to make is that this kind of platform should not be adopted for anything important, let the gamblers gamble if they want but don't try to sell it to the general public.

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