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Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by ezfe »

andsoitis wrote: post #146
monksy wrote: post #71

So I have been rejected and "banned" from a MSG venue. It's not fun, and it has nothing to do with your behavior. It was at the Chicago Theather and it was the Chris Rock show back in 2017. I bought the ticket, I don't believe that it had any special restrictions [this was a long time ago], the ticket had no indications about the "phoneless"/phone encasing demand. The event page didn't say anything about this. Howeve…

> ushers who can't get people to stop filming. Not only is it a numbers game (too many people to police), it is also very annoying for other patrons when people are constantly told to stop. So banning the phones is a great solution that solves a number of problems. > Think they're going to know how to call the cops/handle an emergergcy? lol. Of course they do. I really don’t think you rationale for refusing to hand o…

If they actually kicked people out, not just say "please put your phone away" people would learn it's not okay. The only reason people do it is because they don't think they'll get in trouble.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by rexpop »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #222
gregors wrote: post #174

The reason why we have "protected status" is that people were banning people based on their racist/hate views. Those people used their 5 senses to easily target the people they hated for discrimination. Other variables (such as who you work for) well that's not easily found out...until now. AI is now allowing for new innovating hate and discrimination to drive decisions. What an absolute cluster. I don't envy the cou…

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Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by BeFlatXIII »

monksy wrote: post #163
the__alchemist wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Credit card chargeback.

That would have invalidated my other tickets held by Ticketmaster. I think I held a Metallica ticket at the time. (Metallica let me into solder field with a Lecia Lumix LX10)

Then charge those back as well and bad mouth all those bands.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by Waterluvian »

With the merge being approved, there were now only four Corporations. Sure, there were many off-world Corps, but they didn't have any meaningful affiliations and were really just a novelty for Roamers. Everyone, from birth, was employed by a Corp. Mind you, employment doesn't endow a title, salary, benefits, or duties. It just meant you were permitted access the various amenities it provided: transportation, tech, telcoms, housing, food, water, and of course, a social access permit.

Corps are a lot like the "Sponsored Nation" concept from the 2300s, but without the discrete geographical boundaries. This makes it, by design, as some argue, too easy to find one's self in violation of Corporate policies. Usually someone makes a wrong turn or enters the wrong door and winds up in front of an Adjudicator.

Since the merger, however, enforcement of overlooked policies has been on the rise. Given the complexities of the merge conditions, it became very difficult to remember who was employed by whom, which inevitably led to misassociation with non-colleagues. What used to be a social faux pas, paid for with a sheepish smile, would now find you among the Unemployed.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by michpoch »

tantalor wrote: post #207
gregors wrote: post #174

The reason why we have "protected status" is that people were banning people based on their racist/hate views. Those people used their 5 senses to easily target the people they hated for discrimination. Other variables (such as who you work for) well that's not easily found out...until now. AI is now allowing for new innovating hate and discrimination to drive decisions. What an absolute cluster. I don't envy the cou…

> used their 5 senses to easily target the people they hated No. Very easy to disprove: there are many examples of protected status that is not easy to tell just by looking at someone. 1. Race (esp. mixed race) 2. Religion 3. Pregnancy 4. National origin 5. Sexual orientation 6. Disability 7. Genetics

I assume that is a US thing. How does that exactly work? In what sense are these people protected?

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by ezfe »

plusminusplus wrote: post #138

"we cannot ignore the fact that litigation creates an inherently adverse environment" For discussion, let's take MSG's statement in good faith, and assume the attorney was notified twice. Are there legitimate reasons to do this other than a "pretext for doing collective punishment on adversaries who would dare sue MSG" as suggested?

I mean, I think it's standard operating procedure not to allow any interaction except through proper channels when there's litigation involved, and they can apply this here.

I don't think barring someone from your property is a good punishment against someone who is trying to sue you, since that kinda implies they "dislike" you already and wouldn't want to engage with you

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by ceejayoz »

michpoch wrote: post #255
tantalor wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> used their 5 senses to easily target the people they hated No. Very easy to disprove: there are many examples of protected status that is not easy to tell just by looking at someone. 1. Race (esp. mixed race) 2. Religion 3. Pregnancy 4. National origin 5. Sexual orientation 6. Disability 7. Genetics

I assume that is a US thing. How does that exactly work? In what sense are these people protected?

In the legal sense.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_group#United_States

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by josephcsible »

monksy wrote: post #163
the__alchemist wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Credit card chargeback.

That would have invalidated my other tickets held by Ticketmaster. I think I held a Metallica ticket at the time. (Metallica let me into solder field with a Lecia Lumix LX10)

Plus you'd probably never be able to go to any show that Ticketmaster sells tickets to for the rest of your life.

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by rocketbop »

Waterluvian wrote: post #254

With the merge being approved, there were now only four Corporations. Sure, there were many off-world Corps, but they didn't have any meaningful affiliations and were really just a novelty for Roamers. Everyone, from birth, was employed by a Corp. Mind you, employment doesn't endow a title, salary, benefits, or duties. It just meant you were permitted access the various amenities it provided: transportation, tech, te…

William Gibson?

Re: Facial recognition tech gets woman booted from Rockettes show due to employer

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Post by freeone3000 »

michpoch wrote: post #255
tantalor wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> used their 5 senses to easily target the people they hated No. Very easy to disprove: there are many examples of protected status that is not easy to tell just by looking at someone. 1. Race (esp. mixed race) 2. Religion 3. Pregnancy 4. National origin 5. Sexual orientation 6. Disability 7. Genetics

I assume that is a US thing. How does that exactly work? In what sense are these people protected?

You cannot, for instance, fire someone for being black. These characteristics are protected in the sense that discrimination against them in certain areas is illegal.
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