Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

help.twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

251–260 of 790 posts

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#251

Post by greggarious »

highwaylights wrote: post #119
choult wrote: post #19

"Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." This is not "free speech absolutism" in the slightest. It's not even business-savvy. Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype.

Twitter is competing for Parler’s audience now. This is just accelerating that process along.

> Twitter is competing for Parler’s audience now. This is just accelerating that process along.

What was Parler's audience exactly?

I was too busy smoking weed and complaining to people on my burner phones my hard drive wasn't big enough to download the Blueleaks and I was too broke to buy server space to check it out, but it felt like that thing spun up fairly rapidly, then imploded when someone scraped the entire thing and put it up on Bittorrent.

Is there some other place, like some kind of KKK festival, where these people gather outside the internet? Or is it just the same ball of hate that bounced from LUE to SA to 4chan to like... seven different places to trade CSAM... then they all ended up back together on 8chan when the DNS providers started yanking services and they had to abuse the magic of onion services?

(Sorry if I'm violating the guidelines by going full "Wolf Warrior", but I didn't waste my 20s on civil society so rude MFers could talk about shooting up houses of worship -- I did it so they'd be able to overthrow their totalitarian rulers like we should have done back in 2009 when they were LRADing me and my girlfriends or whatever on my way home from the University of Pittsburgh film club I was a member of back in the day... if I'd known then what I know now, I'd have gotten an MFA and a revolver instead of "All But Dissertation" and a stack of business cards.)

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#252

Post by hackernyus »

Companies can run their private little clubs how they like, in accordance with law. The user is nothing but an ad revenue cow anyway. You should not entrust serious journalism or your communication to the benevolence of one private company. Time to move on from Twitter.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#253

Post by [deleted] »

es7 wrote: post #93

Thats got to be the worst possible decision for Twitter to possibly make. What good is a social media platform that prohibits links to other platforms? I use FB, Twitter, Insta, TikTok, LinkedIn, Discord, etc for a variety of purposes and find and share great content across platforms.

[deleted]

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#254

Post by Deestan »

sva_ wrote: post #80

People here can't even read a few paragraphs on a link posted? > We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms. In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above. This is just about people who basically stop using Twitter and…

> This is just about people who basically stop using Twitter and post a link to follow their profile on a different social media site instead

Even if it was, censoring it is abhorrent.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#255

Post by pjc50 »

tlogan wrote: post #117
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #36

Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

> he just lied. But why?

Why not? Lying is cool, fun, makes people like you if you tell them what you want to hear, and even profitable. You can really inflate your stock values by simply lying about what you can achieve. It's not like there will be any negative consequences to this behavior.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#256

Post by spamizbad »

kristianc wrote: post #202
strangattractor wrote: post #169

There is no money is promoting free speech or at least not the kind of money Twitter needs to pay back it's investors and creditors. There have been multiple poor business decisions since the buyout. The "burn it the ground and start over mentality" is effectively placing the company in a startup position. Given the risk of startups it would have likely been cheaper/smarter to start a new company than pursue a levera…

There’s been some speculation he is trying to build an Everything app a-la WeChat in China. Aside from the fact that the everything app concept has never really worked outside China, and certainly won’t fly with the EU — he probably would have been better starting it from zero. I’m pretty sure if he could have got out of the Twitter acquisition he would have.

I’ve noticed a lot of entrepreneurs have those kinds of ambitions but nobody is hiring at the scale of WeChat (well, Tencent Holding). You’re talking about a platform/ecosystem that has tens of thousands of developers actively working on it. Twitter is in the opposite position having been cut down to the bone. Not going to happen.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#257

Post by grepLeigh »

Influencers cross-promote their social channels all the time, since each social media network has a different audience. An influencer might post how-to videos on TikTok, re-post to YouTube shorts, then re-purpose the same content as a micro-blog threads on Twitter.

There's even a cottage industry of link tree / bio landing pages that consolidate all of your social handles, featured posts, etc into one page. Are those bio sites going to end up banned on Twitter too? Seems ridiculous.

Wish I could remember the exact phrasing, but I once heard an exec I respect say "product moats don't just keep people in, they keep people out too" in reference to "building a moat." What he meant was that moats are usually thought of as a competitive advantage, but you can easily starve your core base by limiting integrations with competing platforms. His product thesis was "build bridges, not moats" and this ended up being a valuable insight.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#258

Post by faefox »

bko wrote: post #136
choult wrote: post #19

"Thin-skinned narcissist buys criticism machine." This is not "free speech absolutism" in the slightest. It's not even business-savvy. Elon's mask has truly cracked, and he proves he is nothing but a febrile mind who has bought into his own hype.

Quoted post unavailable.

Elon Musk is a deeply unserious person so it should come as little surprise that he attracts unserious discussion.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#259

Post by jrmg »

synu wrote: post #77
zetazzed wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Post ( https://post.news ) is probably the closest to a well funded Twitter clone that I’ve seen. Very similar UX. Supposed to have more emphasis on publishers but that’s not very apparent yet in my feed there. Right now I use sigmoid.social for tech stuff and Post for mainstream chatter.

I’m excited to check it out, signed up for the waiting list today.

Please don’t just move to another centralized platform. Mastodon is right there, and working.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#260

Post by scythe »

tlogan wrote: post #117
ClumsyPilot wrote: post #36

Ah damn, I hoped for a fair experiment to demonstrate absordity of total free speech, but istead we got bog standard hypocracy! Boo! If you are caught wondering why some people still support Elon - in 'true conservative' society, like Russia or Saudi states, hypocracy is means of demonstrating hierarchy. So as a leader, you show that you are dominant by demonstrating that rules don't apply to you. That makes you even…

I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

The only remotely plausible explanation that isn't plain narcissism on Elon's part is the hypothesis I found on Matt Levine's blog (which he credited to someone I forget): Elon, by positioning himself as a conservative, hopes to convince Republicans to buy Teslas (and his other products).

There are a variety of problems with that approach — not least that he'd be aiming for the primary targets of oil company propaganda.

Post reply on HN