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They’ve probably never made any money.
"in August 2021, Discord had reported $130 million in 2020 revenues, triple from the prior year, and had an estimated valuation of $15 billion" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord#History
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Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
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>email to 200 recipients they can all store it On discord there are no 200 individual "they" storing it. It's stored by discord. (Or I guess people could be manually logging their own chats, but that's not the issue at hand here.) At first pass it might sound like some minor technical squabble about implementation details, but there is intentionality in design decisions. The legal system can not be blind to those. Di…
But that’s the same for gmail. If I send a mail to 200 gmail contacts, that mail doesn’t disappear when I delete my account
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
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>email to 200 recipients they can all store it On discord there are no 200 individual "they" storing it. It's stored by discord. (Or I guess people could be manually logging their own chats, but that's not the issue at hand here.) At first pass it might sound like some minor technical squabble about implementation details, but there is intentionality in design decisions. The legal system can not be blind to those. Di…
But that’s the same for gmail. If I send a mail to 200 gmail contacts, that mail doesn’t disappear when I delete my account
The design of email means there is an argument for the legal system that gmail is a very very popular post office. That email is a system wherein users have disparate storage areas for receiving/archiving emails, and gmail is one of many organizations that offers users the service of managing their individualized storage area on their behalf.
In the service that is email, there is nothing inherently special about gmail. In the service that is discord, discord is discord.
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IRC network is simply a relay. It doesn't have anything to delete begin with.
True, though the "owners" (what's the term I'm looking for here?) of some channels do public logging e.g. https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
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Look at your web browser. If you click on the "x" on a open tab, it will most likely close it. If you click on the "x" on your browser, it will close the browser, maybe will it alert you that you're going to close many things. Open Microsoft Excel or Microsoft Word, Notepad, your Windows file explorer, same thing. Those are probably the most used app in the world, so people will assume that it is what the "x" button…
None of those are supposed to stay on the background (specially not browsers, which are sandboxes for untrusted apps nowadays). But if I click X on my email client, it keeps receiving email; if I click X on my torrent app or JDownloader, they keep downloading; if I click X on Steam, it keeps updating my games; and if I click X on a chat application, it keeps receiving messages and, yes, usually keeps voice chat open.…
It is the wanted behaviour, of course, but I don't find it weird that having a message explaining it the first time you close the window should be mandatory.
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If the company doesn't do any business in Europe it has no users in Europe, therefore it doesn't have to comply with the GDRP at all.
GDPR is extra-territorial and its rights apply to EU citizens wherever they are in the world if a EU user is in the US ON HOLIDAY! and they're using your service, you're subject to the GDPR (in theory)
A bit more unclear situation is if non-resident is visiting EU and uses services from their home country.
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
"in August 2021, Discord had reported $130 million in 2020 revenues, triple from the prior year, and had an estimated valuation of $15 billion" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord#History
There's no evidence in that sentence that they have made a dime.
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Freedom for me, but not for thee. These rules and regulations are the result of not respecting users' freedoms. Certain kinds of "innovations", from bioweapons to pushing teenagers towards suicide for profit, should be banned.
30 years on the Internet and I am still waiting to see the huuuuuge damage I get from companies tracking me online. Because targeted ads I didn't mind. But you had to equate them with bioweapons and teen suicide. Do you really find them comparable? How?! Meanwhile millions of man-hours are wasted across the EU hunting and closing annoying cookie consent dialogs. Small ad-supported business which existed since the beg…
Also,i fail to see your point: small ad-supported businesses in the beginning of the internet did not rely on tracking and targeted ads, did they?
Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR
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They’ve probably never made any money.
"in August 2021, Discord had reported $130 million in 2020 revenues, triple from the prior year, and had an estimated valuation of $15 billion" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord#History
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I agree with you in principle and I think that the EU is basically extorting American companies, but in your example all that information is stored in your phone, while in this case the information is stored in Discord's servers.
American companies are free to not do business within the EU. If they do, they must comply with the law. Same with USA, China, Russia, etc.
The question is whether this law is closer to fuck you than it is reasonable regulation of bad behavior.