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Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by laacz »

tgv wrote: post #246
xxxxyxxyxxyxyx wrote: post #189

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>Cmd-shift-G or Go > Go to folder isn't easy enough? What's KDE's super brilliant solution? Not sure about KDE, but every OS (admittedly not many), other than Apple's macOS and previous iteraitions I've used, have had an address bar with the file path. Both of the options you mentioned weren't obvious to me and I only found out about them from your comment. This isn't only an issue of familiarity but also an issue of…

Discoverability is a holy grail. With a list of features that has been expanding since 1984, you can't expect them all to be discoverable. And this one isn't a very frequent use case for normal users. KDE does have a different target audience from macOS and Windows, but even as a dev/architect/sysadmin, I'm not sure if I would have found it. I've got a GNOME setup at work, but no idea if it has a similar feature.

As a person, who is using Mac for close to three years, I have to admit that discoverability of keyboard shortcuts (or even existence of such - navigating apps' menus, for example) on OS X is close to zero.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by panda-giddiness »

ubercow13 wrote: post #39
panda-giddiness wrote: post #33

The only UI difference I find truly maddening is the inability to open a terminal in the current folder. On other operating systems, I can right click in the empty space to open a terminal in that directory; on macOS, I must instead right click on a subfolder, open a terminal in that subfolder, and then navigate up one directory (`cd ..`)... ...unless the current folder contains no folders, in which case I have to na…

Yeah its annoying. If you enable the pathbar status bar thing in finder, you can right click the current folder which is always visible there and launch the terminal. However if the folder has no contents there is still no way to do it with the keyboard I think.

Thanks!

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by pindab0ter »

trymas wrote: post #194
tgv wrote: post #161

How does this particular list of very minor gripes get so many upvotes? And it's not just minor gripes, half of them are wrong. Some of them have been addressed by others, but: * Taking screenshots requires to click the preview in order to copy to clipboard, which also causes to save it to Desktop. No, it doesn't. * Surprising lack of apps in the store Says someone defending KDE? But hey, strangely enough I'm typing…

Agreed one hundred percent. Why extremely biased rant from specific DE subreddit (also biased) gets so many upvotes? Who cares? My additions: * Poor to non-existing window tiling (at least Rectangle has very good defaults and works well) There are apps for that, like writer mentioned - so what's the problem? I'd argue that using Expose, Mission Control, Multiple desktops and controlling them with touchpad swipes is f…

> `cmd-o` to open

I always use Command+Down.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by timbit42 »

gary17the wrote: post #45

macOS UI capabilities aside, I have to mention that the latest Kubuntu 22.04 Long Term Support (LTS) 2022 release with KDE Plasma 5.24 is a fantastic upgrade. The system is snappy, much more so than under the previous Kubuntu 20.04 2020 release. Moreover, the 5.15 Linux kernel seems to be handling huge memory allocations for virtual machines an order of magnitude faster than the previous 5.4 kernel. If you are tired…

Snaps aren't snappy though. I switched to Linux Mint and put KDE on it.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by Steltek »

yamtaddle wrote: post #229
Steltek wrote: post #226

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Why? Objectively, it has huge flaws compared to Linux package managers (permissions, sudo, capricious renaming of binaries).

Been using it since 2012 or 2013 across a half-dozen devices and I'm not sure what you mean by any of that.

You can 'rm /usr/local/bin/*' without sudo. Or replace /usr/local/Homebrew/bin/brew with something malicious. That's laughable and I don't know how it gets a pass from everyone.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by distances »

dsego wrote: post #233
distances wrote: post #174

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I'm sure it's partly just resistance to change. I did get some good tips from the comment someone linked: https://old.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/yvxz2l/kde_beats_macos... But discoverability is part of the issue. E.g. Finder doesn't list keyboard shortcuts for any of the items in the context menu. I now see they are listed in the app menu though. But I've used Finder for three years without these hints. And then I enc…

> I can't cut-paste a file. Is it something I can't just find, or is it not a Mac concept? I'm sure if linux/kde/gnome implemented copy-move semantics instead of the usual cut-paste first, every linux evangelist would advocate it here for how superior it is to win/mac paradigms, sort of like package management flavor of the month, middle mouse button to paste text etc. I still remember how non-technical folks couldn'…

I don't really get what you're saying. That there is another file moving semantic on Mac, and it's not that hard to figure out?

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by lucideer »

kennend3 wrote: post #119
lucideer wrote: post #52

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Another hard disagree here. My daily driver personal laptop is a macbook, it's the best machine I've ever owned & my next laptop will most likely be a macbook. My work machine is also a macbook. But they are not intuitive nor highly "usable". After many years going through various osx/macOS transitions, it's an OS with objectively bad ux in many ways. That's not to say it's bad software. Apart from the hardware of my…

Just wait until your very expensive laptop no longer receives OS updates. Not because it cant run them, but because apple doesn't want you using that machine anymore. Legacy opencore patcher is proof that these machines can run the OS but the installer blocks it. For frame of reference, I moved from using linux exclusively to MacOS around 2 years ago. I'd avoid buying real mac hardware over this because it is expensi…

I'm not sure if you're making some assumptions about me being an Apple fan or something, but my comment was critical of macOS (specifically usability is bad): I didn't make any points about software lifecycle support (neither in favour nor against).

> PS - Question for you. Why are there so many threads on the net on how to install linux on a macbook?

There really aren't relatively speaking. Asahi is a fantastic achievement but most mac users use macOS. For better or for worse. Fwiw I've run Linux on an ancient macbook pro in the past (which was past supporting osx/macos): it worked great.

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by nix23 »

lampe3 wrote: post #20

To be honest I stopped caring what OS I'm running as long as it is not windows. I have a terminal open 99% of the time and I almost never open finder or Gnome Files. pacman or brew? really I don't care. Both install what I want with one command. VS Code is basically the same on every system. Gnome/KDE/MacOS all of them have there pros and cons. Right now what wins for me is the apple silicon. I can develop stuff with…

>I have a terminal open 99% of the time and I almost never open finder or Gnome Files.

Haha, true i once made a bet that i can survive a week with 9front/Plan9 at work..well it worked since 9Front has SSH and i was always on servers. ;)

Re: KDE beats macOS

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Post by Kwpolska »

P5fRxh5kUvp2th wrote: post #115
easygenes wrote: post #47

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I have to say that WSL is an absolute nightmare. I just cannot stand it. Not only that, but Microsoft has deeply embedded Hyper-V into Windows, to the point that you can't run another hypervisor. I tried to get away from WSL by using VMware Workstation and found that Hyper-V was still under the hood and bogging down the system. All the documents I could find, including recent official ones from Microsoft, on removing…

That would explain why my recent-ish attempt at running an ubuntu VM in windows was so bad. I was kind of shocked, how could performance have degraded so much over the years? 10 years ago I was running that workload just fine, but today, on a ryzen 5950, it's slow? I wonder if Hyper-V is the culprit.

You can try running it with Hyper-V directly, or disabling Hyper-V (although that doesn’t seem to work on my Windows 11 box, perhaps because of the fancy virtualization-based security features?)
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