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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #225

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I think if someone can't afford $8 for Twitter Blue, they should probably get off of Twitter and find more ways to make money. There is plenty of work all around.

There are plenty of hard-working people who wouldn't want to budget $8/month for something nonessential like a social media app. There's no need to disparage them.

Then don't get something nonessential such as the blue checkmark. You can still use Twitter.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #177

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Imagine making pricing decisions for a 40 billion dollar business on a fucking whim based on feedback from a famous author. I guess this is in character, given that Musk likes to price things with meme numbers already.

Imagine thinking he made the decision based on that.

Perhaps he actually did - I think in part he's just playing it straight as an outsider, openly talking about the emperor being naked. That is, a lot of the serious business is just bullshit LARP people do, and if Musk can openly mock it and make money on the meme value of it all? That's a well-earned entertainer salary.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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"Half as many ads" fascinates me deeply. Has a business ever publicly quantified how many ads you get? Does YouTube say, "we expose you to an average of x seconds of commercials and y pixels of static ads"? How do I know what half should be? We've all been there: "it feels like YouTube has cranked the ads way up lately..." Will "half" just become "full" when "full" gets doubled next year?

Thought the same thing. How do you prove top me as the user that I'm seeing "half as many ads" now that I'm paying $8? No ads is easy. They are there or they aren't. I'd considering paying Twitter $8/month if it was no ads. Or, you know, I just keep using Tweetbot for $10/year and there's zero ads there and a straight reverse chronological timeline to boot.

Yeah the only way this could work is if the ads were replaced with a banner that says "thanks for paying", so you can actually see how many ads were removed. Which is a better experience than seeing an ad but worse than an ad blocker.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #202

A lot of people aren't groking what this means, even on tech and startup savvy HN. Naval and Balaji said it well: Charging for the blue check moves it from a status symbol to a utilitarian one. It elicits shrieks because it’s more about leveling the playing field than making money. https://twitter.com/naval/status/1587523978456748033 The blue checks wanted to abolish billionaires, in the name of equality. The billion…

It’s fascinating to glimpse these endless mental contortions about the immense significance of tweaks to a social media profile flag. I don’t think anyone cares except those same billionaires/VCs and journalists who both write this drivel (one of the links is on a16zcrypto.com which I guess is the ideological enemy base of “establishment journos”). Will anyone else be left on Twitter when their private war is done?

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #202

A lot of people aren't groking what this means, even on tech and startup savvy HN. Naval and Balaji said it well: Charging for the blue check moves it from a status symbol to a utilitarian one. It elicits shrieks because it’s more about leveling the playing field than making money. https://twitter.com/naval/status/1587523978456748033 The blue checks wanted to abolish billionaires, in the name of equality. The billion…

Funny, I was just listening to Naval Ravikant talking about it being better to seek wealth than status, because the latter is a zero-sum game. hard to unsee that dynamic once it's pointed out.

This is very astute, but I can't help wonder why people worry so much about their status on the bird website. Actually doing/making things in real life is pretty much guaranteed to have a much higher return in multiple dimensions (incl. status) than pretending like what happens there matters.

It doesn't have to be either/or: make something cool, throw out a link to it, repeat.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #140

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It will be both. Pay to verify, get paid for creating content. "This will also give Twitter a revenue stream to reward content creators" https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1587505731611262976

What kind of content is being created on Twitter that warrants being paid? Reddit works flawlessly without that in longer form

Points of view that Elon likes, I imagine. Especially ones that can't get revenue elsewhere for peddling pro-virus points of view, for example.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #72

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This was definitely the part that stood out to me, but it really relies on the deals they can strike.

It makes sense. It’s ridiculous to have to subscribe to individual news websites when there are so many; an intermediary that did deals with publishers wouldn’t be a bad idea.

If Elon can get enough publishers on board I'd gladly pay more than $8/mo. Maybe offer a tiered system. Or better yet, choose-your-own.

$8/mo: Choose 2

$12/mo: Choose 4

$15/mo: Choose 6

etc.

Then people vote with their dollars which sources are important to them.

Simplicity would be challenging. It wouldn't work if it devolves into something resembling tiered Cable TV packages.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #181

What if I already have the checkmark and cant afford to pay? Will they take it away?

I think if someone can't afford $8 for Twitter Blue, they should probably get off of Twitter and find more ways to make money. There is plenty of work all around.

To me it's more that I'm unwilling to take on any more subscriptions. They all seem small in isolation, but they accumulate into a meaningful sum.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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This is off. Should be: $1.99 for every user with optional $7.99 upgrade to validated ID/Blue checkmark. No ads. Way fewer bots. Focus completely on functional/feature engineering and dismantle advertising system. Branch out into VOIP/Email services. Total communications platform instead of "social media" should be his direction.

They make much more than $2/user from ads. Since it’s already not profitable I don’t see how it’s going to work

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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post #202

A lot of people aren't groking what this means, even on tech and startup savvy HN. Naval and Balaji said it well: Charging for the blue check moves it from a status symbol to a utilitarian one. It elicits shrieks because it’s more about leveling the playing field than making money. https://twitter.com/naval/status/1587523978456748033 The blue checks wanted to abolish billionaires, in the name of equality. The billion…

Some better takes on this from what I've seen: https://twitter.com/jamesrbuk/status/1587381512500125699 > If one in five current blue ticks paid $20 a month that would raise just under $15 million a year for Twitter…Twitter’s current revenues (mostly from ads) are $5 billion a year. Musk’s apparent plan would generate about 30 hours’ worth of annual revenue. https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/158750920240192716…

What percentage of "current" blue ticks convert is not material since the TAM is about to become every Twitter user.

And the offering is not just about verification, but other Blue features. Personally I have no interest in a blue check, but I'd happily pay $8/month to remove ads (unfortunately only half the ads will be removed in this iteration).

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