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One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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I would love to see a survey of mobile phone users to see if this matters to them. I’ll take a guess it doesn’t matter because Google would be flaunting the results. As for negative effects on kids. There’s more than just phones. Clothes, cars, vacations, social media posts, tutoring, sports. Maybe we should put everyone in uniforms, don’t allow kids drive to school, ban sports, and forbid them from talking about the…

My school had uniforms, bullying doesn't stop. Kids are honestly just mean, and not idiots. You can dress a wealthy kid and a poor kid in the same clothes and you will not fool anyone in class about which one is the poor one.

But does it mitigate bullying? Going straight to “but bullying doesn’t stop” is an unconvincingly perfectionist stance.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

> despite a large number of techies using Android

I use an iPhone. Not for any philosophical reason. I tried switching to android 3 times over the years since the first iPhone came out. Same plan, same provider, grandfathered in, same house, same spot. Each android phone did not get the same level of cell service in my house as the iPhone. I have side gigs I do contracting for, I have had cases of missing calls where the androids have literally cost me $100's of dollars, phone didn't ring... just a voicemail notification showing up hours later.

After the 3rd attempt, last being a nexus 5, I gave up. I'm sorry but I draw a line when a device messes with my income regardless of my ideological stance on open source and not having a windows device or even an Apple laptop in the house for the last 13 years.

With that said the Pixel 7 Pro looks nice, and I would love to give it a try but I'll only do that if I have it on a separate dedicated line to try out besides my main one that have had for 20 years. Not sure it's worth the effort at this point.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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#1 is great. A gold digger (and a low intelligence one at that) waving their red flag at first contact.

The vast majority of women would rather have a successful man as a mate than the alternative.

Yes, because Android is only for the poors and the rich universally use the iPhone without exception.

You're on HN. Half of us use Android.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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What? No. Apple is at best indirectly responsible.

What? No. Apple is directly responsible, like the GP said.

Wouldn't the bully be the one directly responsible?

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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I think using Android can be either a low income signal or a Grey Tribe [0] cultural signal, and people on dating sites might want to screen out either (or both). Like you said, it’s about arbitrary norms, but we make assumptions about others all the time based on which norms we follow. An analogy from a different angle is that texting your Tinder match from an Android phone is a bit like applying for a tech job with…

.. people use SMS on tinder ? I had overall a couple hundred matches and going through classic text has been exceedingly rare, 80% of the time conversations move on to instagram, and otherwise to fb messenger or whatsapp

Guessing you are not in the US? I am and all matches I have had on hinge have moved onto text and I have had a girl comment on the green bubbles. I don't even have fb messenger or whatsapp installed.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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So, then compare them at a similar position? A side-by-side screenshot of iOS 7, when this design was introduced: https://i.insider.com/5df902c5fd9db27769749a5f?width=1300&fo...

That's definitely not iOS 7. Those screenshots are from a notched device, which means at least iOS 11, and based on the app drawer on the bottom it looks more like iOS 12 or above.

Should have been "the design introduced with iOS 7".

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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My school had uniforms, bullying doesn't stop. Kids are honestly just mean, and not idiots. You can dress a wealthy kid and a poor kid in the same clothes and you will not fool anyone in class about which one is the poor one.

But does it mitigate bullying? Going straight to “but bullying doesn’t stop” is an unconvincingly perfectionist stance.

Not really, no. If a kid wants to bully you theyll find a reason to do so. If you've ever been a third party watching that stuff, you'll see what people are actually being bullied for doesn't really make sense. Take away the shoes and the phone and it will just be your hair or your posture. Bullying is a targeted activity

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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SMS is just terrible though, and is just not worth using. It is plain text, limited in size and simply has less features.

What anyone means when they say SMS post ~2010 is SMS/MMS

It didn't get better.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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post #63

This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

Yeah, no one uses plain sms messages across the pond any more. And sms group chats? I only know about sms group chats from US posters. You can just assume everyone has Whatsapp here, and just message them over that.

Even iMessage is barely used. In The Netherlands, WhatsApp is king. And WhatsApp doesn't discriminate.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Green was the original color of text messages when the iPhone was introduced. When Apple introduced iMessages four or five years later they made iMessages Blue. This isn’t some great conspiracy.

I have no idea why this comment is downvoted. This is exactly the question you should be asking if you care about Apple's intent as the article claims.
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