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Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by rolph »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #26
glcheetham wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this harms their business then why would they keep doing it

Say you're a decision-maker at Google (or Any Large Corp). You have a KPI to increase revenue by 5% this year. If you hit this KPI, then you get a bonus. If you get the bonus, then you can afford the thing that your partner has been wanting forever (or that will make your neighbours jealous, or whatever), and you get a happy life. You know that doing X will harm the company in the long term (defined as anything past…

you kinda described sociopathy

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by shadowgovt »

londons_explore wrote: post #108
senko wrote: post #16

Notably, this is not Google showing random search/display ads. Those look like ads for Google's own product. I don't think this is the first time. IIRC, Google used to show an ad for Chrome if you used the search from any other browser.

I'm surprised they advertise their own product in those places... It's such an obvious thing for the EU to go after. "Google has a monopoly position in Browsers/Search, and (ab)used their homepage to advertise their entry into a new field of business, immediately giving it free advertising the competitors could never access." If I were Googles legal team, I would immediately put an end to such cross-product advertisi…

Or the legal team has advised them that the legality is unclear and management has decided the easiest way to resolve murky law is to see the other side in court.

There's a lot of law like that, and Google has the war chest to ask the question when merely that act alone could bankrupt smaller companies.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by jonas21 »

huijzer wrote: post #177

> Google has historically been protective of their front page, why now? Probably for the same reason that Google is shutting down Stadia [1] and cutting staff [2], and the same reason that we see roughly one announcement of layoffs here on Hacker News every week: most people expect that we are going into a recession. For example, see the price of major indexes like the S&P 500 or the NASDAQ and plot it on a 10+ year…

Google has been promoting other Google products on the home page for over 20 years [1].

I think the only difference this time around is that people didn't realize Fitbit was acquired by Google.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt2iPpJmySU

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by DesiLurker »

unstatusthequo wrote: post #120
jhoechtl wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days Bing is increasingly my goto search engine, my switching costs are essentially zero

I finally got fed up and pay for Kagi. Very happy so far. Cents per day is worth it

I looked it up. honestly $10/month is stupid level pricing for un-established product with free competitors. the pricing needs to be what can slip below average users pain threshold (IMO thats like $2.99/mo but whatever). there is a reason most techies have not heard of it yet.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by deltree7 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #209
criley2 wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a classic example of how propaganda works. The layman's definition of recession, which has never been used officially or by policy-makers in America, is this bit about "negative GDP growth for two quarters". But despite that not being how we've always determined recessions here, if you read the reply above, the user has literally invented a political conspiracy about their ignorance about economics. The layma…

Your own wikipedia link references the standard - the standard used by the media and the traders that it's two quarters of negative GDP. NBER does tend to be considered the official source.. and they tend to announce them about a year after they happen. NBER is important but "determiner of recession" is not quite their job role. You need only to glance at the markets to see the reality of the situation we are in. The…

At the end of the day, the definition of Recession doesn't matter.

There are ZERO changes or decision anyone can make (including policy) based on whoever's definition of recession is.

It's really weird that humans come up with these arbitrary definitions that doesn't matter but choose that hill to die on.

Thought experiment: Knowing and feeling all the economic news around you, what decision would you make if (or what decision should policy makers make)

a) we are in some arbitrary definition of Recession?

b) we are not in some arbitrary definition of Recession?

There really is none

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by mort96 »

marcosdumay wrote: post #247
mort96 wrote: post #33

I woke up to ads in my new tab page in Firefox yesterday; sponsored links to Amazon and Nike. Browsers don't seem to serve users anymore. They, like everything else, are mostly ad delivery mechanisms.

I'm on 105.0.1 on Linux, and just checked because of this discussion. Firefox announced ads on the new tab a while ago, and I used about:blank by that time, but I saw the switch to turn them off in the settings. Now there are no ads and the switch is gone. Firefox seems to be going everywhere at once, so it wouldn't surprise me to discover there is a 105.0.2 with ads, or that ads exist on a few regions only. But at l…

This is the screenshot I took this morning: https://p.mort.coffee/0Yy.png -- note the sponsored Amazon and Nike. It wasn't like that yesterday. I might not have restarted Firefox in a little while though, so it might be from an update which was released some time in the past week or two.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

moffkalast wrote: post #248
lukas099 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not duckduckgo?

That's just yahoo and bing search merged, with some graphics to tell you how much they love privacy every 2 seconds. It also has a stupid name.

> That's just yahoo and bing search merged,

Given that we're in a thread underneath someone endorsing Bing as a good option, that sounds like a plus.

> with some graphics to tell you how much they love privacy every 2 seconds.

That is their differentiator, yes.

> It also has a stupid name.

As... Opposed to Google or Bing? This is your argument?

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by tjpnz »

huijzer wrote: post #177

> Google has historically been protective of their front page, why now? Probably for the same reason that Google is shutting down Stadia [1] and cutting staff [2], and the same reason that we see roughly one announcement of layoffs here on Hacker News every week: most people expect that we are going into a recession. For example, see the price of major indexes like the S&P 500 or the NASDAQ and plot it on a 10+ year…

Perhaps all those people claiming to put in two or three hours each day there aren't as productive as they believed themselves to be. I wonder how much that particular brand of hubris will be tolerated now times are tough.

Re: Google has added ads on both its search page and Chrome://newtab

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Post by colinmhayes »

Euphorbium wrote: post #121
londons_explore wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised they advertise their own product in those places... It's such an obvious thing for the EU to go after. "Google has a monopoly position in Browsers/Search, and (ab)used their homepage to advertise their entry into a new field of business, immediately giving it free advertising the competitors could never access." If I were Googles legal team, I would immediately put an end to such cross-product advertisi…

Google does not have a monopoly in browsers or search.

Anti trust requires market power abuses, not a monopoly.
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