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Do you evidence of that?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5067824/
Thank you
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>>I'd like to see similar study about the original gateway drug: "24-hour News Channels" Back in the early 80s I was living in LA and I'd grab some food on the way home from work and the "News" on an independent station. They had 3 half hour News show back to back. They started out with "Local News", then moved on to "National News", and finally "World News". At first it didn't seem much different than the big 3 Netw…
It’s been well studied. We know the ad suppprted news make us sad. Don’t watch the news. NPR and PBS are the best if you have to. I think someone could make a few billion running a positive happy news channel.
> I think someone could make a few billion running a positive happy news channel.
Isn't that essentially what TikTok is? A 24/7 feed of all the positive, happy, dopamine-triggering content you could ever want, tailored to you. And yeah, they have.
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#253I'd like to see similar study about the original gateway drug: "24-hour News Channels", which was followed by "24-hour Outrage-News Channels". Seems like we've been building toward this, the interactivity of the internet was the paradigm shift (to use a 90's term). EDIT: I realize it isn't news messing with youths' self-esteem (well, in some cases it is), but it is related in that the media is custom-made to drive en…
We have been gamified. But then again spending 6 hours a day reading celebrity magazines to r watching daytime TV will equally rot our sense of balance. We some how think this would be six hours replaced with "improving our minds", visiting museums and working on our calculus or oil painting. I mean we could all do that. we more or less force our children to do that at school. If there was a "improve my mind" button…
> We some how think this would be six hours replaced with "improving our minds", visiting museums and working on our calculus or oil painting.
I'm in my 50's and am literally doing the latter two on weekends. Have I become a trope?!? lol.
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Fair points! The comment I responded to was seeming to attribute those to OP's later comments, which would be unfair. The dismissal of the dismissal still comes across as low-effort and shallow.
I think their point was more that, after having obtained the preprint, they still weren't able to produce anything specific to the article, which demonstrates that their dismissal was low effort and unfair (and I think it's fair to call on them to admit that). The amount of effort required to dig into the methodology is high (and it's understandable if one doesn't want to spend their leisure time that way), but that'…
I dunno, I guess we just disagree.
By the time I made my comment, we had this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32942901
I think neither that comment, nor the commenter's self-reply should be considered lacking effort.
(Arguably the attitude that comes across when they complain about being "baited" isn't great, but their intended meaning seems fine.)
I do not take offense to the response calling out OP's first comment as low-effort and shallow because it was both of those things. I just can't see the comment I responded to as defensible with such a strong combination of irony and infelicity.
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#255I took a long break (maybe 5 years or so) but I have recently started using both FB and Instagram and have been surprised at how positive my time has been on these platforms. On FB I have been finding interesting local groups and events (just moved to a new city) and on Instagram, I have been enjoying seeing updates from real friends. On the other hand I recently deleted Twitter from my phone. I love twitter for gett…
> I took a long break (maybe 5 years or so) but I have recently started using both FB and Instagram and have been surprised at how positive my time has been on these platforms. On FB I have been finding interesting local groups and events (just moved to a new city) and on Instagram, I have been enjoying seeing updates from real friends.
Agreed.
I enjoy my time on Facebook. I think most of the complaints about Facebook (aside from privacy issues) are self-inflicted.
Your feed is what you make it. You have an uncle that's a rabid Trump supporter that posts racist shit? Delete him. Or at least unfollow him so his bullshit doesn't show up in your feed.
I recently discovered the term "hate-follow" and I'm just flabbergasted that anybody would ever follow someone on social media that they despise.
I've also heard that some people are very prone to envy and seeing someone's vacation photos fills them with depression, but eh...not sure what can be done about that.
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We have been gamified. But then again spending 6 hours a day reading celebrity magazines to r watching daytime TV will equally rot our sense of balance. We some how think this would be six hours replaced with "improving our minds", visiting museums and working on our calculus or oil painting. I mean we could all do that. we more or less force our children to do that at school. If there was a "improve my mind" button…
> We some how think this would be six hours replaced with "improving our minds", visiting museums and working on our calculus or oil painting. I'm in my 50's and am literally doing the latter two on weekends. Have I become a trope?!? lol.
Was the museum packed with hundreds of 20 somethings? if not then the "life long education" idea is not really catching on - you aren't a trope. You probably aren't a minority - barely make a cult I suspect :-)
Re: Facebook proven to negatively impact mental health
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Earlier this year, I had a recruiter invite me to interview there, and I made an attempt at convincing myself with reasoning like: - they're going to do their evil thing anyway, may as well show up and intentionally do it marginally worse - they're going to pay someone large sums of money, may as well be me - I increasingly believe this whole industry is net evil overall, and large sums of money mean I can leave it s…
Thank you for a realistic, grounded, evidence-based discussion of this. I've seen quite a few comments in this thread that have made me shake my head pretty hard. Here's the thing: anyone who is in IT, especially programming; is going to be well-aware of the...I don't want to say 'evil', but I will at least say questionably ethical nature of Facebook's workings. Anyone working there had to compromise some level of et…
My guess is that the personal code of ethics that people run with who work there or work for other companies that produce goods that are bad for people (e.g., tobacco) is that their belief in individual choice is the primary factor.
In this way, the poor choices people make is not the responsibility of the person offering the choice, it's the responsibility of the chooser. You can sell heroine this way and sleep like a baby.
It's not totally crazy if you think what you're offering is not coercive and that people can and should look out for their best interests. This doesn't work for my ethics because I think, basically, that some people aren't so great at looking out for their own best interests and can be tricked or seduced into hurting themselves. If someone is weak in whatever way that they can be tricked into hurting themselves, this is a soft form of coercion.
Ethically though it's not totally cut and dried. Pretty much everyone engaged in behavior where they might come out ahead relative to another (e.g., buying/selling a car, aiming for a promotion or raise, etc). I work for a company that sells shiny baubles and people buy stuff they can't really afford partly because of our slick marketing. I feel this is better than working for Meta, but is it? I don't know. Being ethical while living under an unethical system is almost impossible and requires significant sacrifice. If I'm being honest, I'm not willing to make that sacrifice, so I'm already compromising my ethics to _some_ level too. I guess we all just pick our levels.
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Playing video games or trading have similiar effects or worse. Engineers who build those platforms should question themselves too.
That depends on the video game: https://www.verywellmind.com/video-games-could-treat-mental-... https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-health-benefits-o... https://english.umd.edu/research-innovation/journals/interpo... EDIT: formatting
Video games are addictive at least the ones that you play for hunders of hours, I know from myself.
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Why stop there Girolamo Savonarola was doing it in the 15th century, or Tiberius and Gaius Gracchus.
How do the Gracchi fit in here? They were certainly populist, but decidedly not socially conservative.
The comparison is that they're all fire breathing populists that stoked resentment, dabbled in conspiracy theories, and encouraged violence. My point is that these figures have always existed and aren't confined to the contemporary left/right binary. There's just something about people that makes these figures inevitable.
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