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Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.

You get more benefit from just walking, I believe.

Walking is good.

Walking doesn't raise the heart rate enough.

https://www.ntnu.edu/cerg/personal-activity-intelligence#Bet...

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Aleksandr's training is public on his Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/26934035 Something to remember is that this is his pace _after_ pit stops, so his actual running pace was faster. Also notable is that this course was kind of terrible, with four 90 degree turns and three 180 degree turns each lap for 209 laps. There's little doubt that he could run > 200 miles on a course with fewer turns.

He's got the fly-bys enabled, too -- and you can watch the replay of the race with 20 other athletes: https://labs.strava.com/flyby/viewer/#7828119666?c=u0pf6j88&...

I don't really get flybys, but I'm jaded as the founder of Ayvri.com

here's the run in 3D. It's a flat loop, so not very exciting. https://ayvri.com/scene/z15yoqwqjx/cl89ecl3b0001356i6w6jf6t1

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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> Goes to show… Let's think about that for a moment. No, it does not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

Non-sequitur.

spiderfarmer claimed — Aidas Ardzijauskas's amazing feat "Goes to show" blah blah.

No, it does not.

You won't find anyone running 200 miles in descriptions of persistence hunting ;-)

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Huberman talks about this in his podcast - he says that "don't stack dopamine". In this context - try to run without podcasts, then you'll enjoy more running and podcasts too.

Huberman must be one of those guys who experience the runner's high - I can't say I ever have, so podcasts and running is about getting back to normal rather than multiplying the happy.

Yeah... If I cant listen to a podcast while I run then I'm not going to run. It's not a thing I love doing. If I can listen to a podcast at the same time I feel like I'm doing something I don't like doing but its okay because I get to listen to a podcast.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Anyone who can run 5 miles at 7:15 pace is a pretty well conditioned athlete. If you can keep that pace for an hour, that shows some determination. Multiple hours is an incredible feat. 24 hours is just suprahuman.

The standard to pass the first phase of US Army Ranger School is 5 miles at 8:00 pace. Those aren't pro runners by any means, but shows a standard for a rather well conditioned group of people. They also need to do 49 push-ups and 59 sit-ups in 2 minutes each, plus 6 pull-ups.

Only 6 pull ups? I find that a bit humorous compared to some of the other requirements

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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Another incredible ultra-runner from Lithuania is Aidas Ardzijauskas who last year completed his 444 day run covering 30303 km, which is on average 68km every day for almost 1.5 years! His plan originally was to run around the world, but during the pandemic it wasn't possible to do that so he just ran it all in Lithuania. Unfortunately there isn't much English-language coverage about the monumental feat, but this is…

That’s an amazing feat. Goes to show we once were predators who weren’t fast but had the stamina to outrun most of our prey.

Interesting video here of one of the San people running down a Kudu which collapses from exhaustion after an 8 hour chase: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=826HMLoiE_o. Hard to compare this to Sorokin because the hunter is running in veld, not on a road, and has far less access to refueling points. Also, if he fails to track the prey down on day one, he would probably have a go again on day two, maybe even day three. Interesting claims too, that as an upright runner which sweats from glands all over his body, and as a creature capable of carrying water, man may have had persistence advantages over creatures with less ability to cool themselves and which run on four legs - a less energy efficient mode of running according to Attenborough.

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

Non-sequitur. spiderfarmer claimed — Aidas Ardzijauskas's amazing feat "Goes to show" blah blah. No, it does not. You won't find anyone running 200 miles in descriptions of persistence hunting ;-)

I'm not sure why you're attempting to call out non-existent fallacies and having so much difficulty accepting the hypothesis.

The person in question averaged roughly 40 miles per day. The specific example provided in the wikipedia article - full of citations to supplementary materials - detail a group running up to 35 miles per day.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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post #253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting

Non-sequitur. spiderfarmer claimed — Aidas Ardzijauskas's amazing feat "Goes to show" blah blah. No, it does not. You won't find anyone running 200 miles in descriptions of persistence hunting ;-)

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Re: Aleksandr Sorokin smashes 24-hour world record with 198.6 mile run

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post #5

I've started running and an unexpected challenge is boredom. The running is challenging as is, but doing it for ~1h30m has been, for me, well, tedious. I guess that's a byproduct of always being within arm's reach of a phone.

I've been a runner for a long time and this is absolutely a thing, it's not just you. Running do over an hour gets boring unless you're trail running and have different scenery to look forward to. That being said, a lot of people get bored (or worse, are actively displeased) much quicker and can't even run without music to entertain them.

>>Running do over an hour gets boring unless you're trail running and have different scenery to look forward to.

As somebody into heavy hands walking this is precisely my problem. Urban walking gets boring and tedious quickly.

Most people who enjoy these activities are basically looking forward to spending some time in solitude walking in natural spaces where there is much green, sunlight, wind and some scenery to relish.

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