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Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by can16358p »

mstade wrote: post #243
can16358p wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weather app doesn't even show the hour before. I get it, less features = simpler user interface and less code maintenance... but they could at least start at current hour BUT provide ability to scroll back in time for a few days, perhaps showing that data with 0.5 opacity faded to indicate that the data is no longer relevant (past). Otherwise I LOVE the updated weather app in iOS 16 where you can see many data points…

Doesn't the graph show exactly what you're asking for? Anything before the vertical line showing the current time shows the historical data for that day?

Depends on which hour you check.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by Phenomenit »

beefman wrote: post #187

Folks here said the new Weather app has the same info. I upgraded to iOS 16 about a year before I normally would just to check this. And nope, it doesn't have the one feature I use Dark Sky for – the one feature no other weather app has: the ability to see what the weather was yesterday. It's what Dark Sky calls "Time Machine". (Can't believe Apple let them use this name this long, now that I think of it.) (I support…

Is it because they don't want you to know how bad their prediction was?

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by Dylan16807 »

scarface74 wrote: post #214
atchoo wrote: post #146

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One example should be enough to see a problem. Do you not see a problem of Apple denuding other platforms all independent applications? They've taken what... Siri, Shazam, NextVR, Dark Skies off other platforms. How would you quantify your limit if not one? They block Firefox/Opera in preference to their own, they impose undue costs on Spotify etc. I see a need for separation of pipes and content. Break up the apple…

Shazam is still available on Android and Apple announced that WeatherKit will be available for Android. But more to the point, Android is backed by Google - a company with a 1T+ market cap. If Google can’t keep up with Apple, it’s not because of lack resources. It’s because Google has the attention span of crack addled flea.

Even if google keeps up, which would negate the "platform advantage" part of the equation, that's still a concentration of market power into just two companies.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by willmacdonald »

mstade wrote: post #242
benbristow wrote: post #234

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I've noticed the Weather app to be pretty unreliable to be fair. The amount of times I've looked out the window recently when my phone says it's raining but it's completely dry or vice-versa or it says it's definitely going to rain and it doesn't. Perhaps no weather app is good enough to deal with Scottish (specifically Glaswegian-ish) weather :)

Same here in Stockholm! WeatherPro seems to hold up pretty well, but the built in weather app is mostly useless. Pretty though!

I'm in Stockholm too. I find klart.se, SMHI or yr.no to work pretty well.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by silon42 »

mmis1000 wrote: post #193
chris_wot wrote: post #137

All I can say is that at least Macs show the weather in Celcius when you are in the correct region. We have Windows 11 systems here that no matter what we do show the weather is in Fahrenheit on the Windows taskbar, which is utterly useless to us.

I guess it is region dependent or language dependent or both. My win 11 showed me the temp in Celcius for me though.

It needs to be independently settable, or it's useless.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by ghusto »

atchoo wrote: post #38

A platform buying up cross-platform apps and making them uni-platform really should be slam dunk anti-trust. It's obviously anti-consumer and concentration of market power.

Reading the Apple apologist replies to this, is a lesson in why arguing with cultists or any other religious types, is pointless.

"It's not true because X!"

"Here is something that is a fact, which we all (including you) agreed is true. It demonstrates why X is false."

"It's not true because X!"

Jesus.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by wyre »

anshumankmr wrote: post #249

Can someone explain what was great about dark sky? All I really know about it that it was an weather app acquired by Apple from some other discussions about it. It seemingly had a "Time Machine" feature to see the past weather but is that really a game changing feature? Was the UI good ?

Hyperlocalized weather forcasting down to the street address, wealth of information laid out in an accessible way with a clean UI.

I live in the PNW and love that I can see the hourly forecasted rainfall for the day.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by Markoff »

raybb wrote: post #16

What weather app are people using on Android? I'm currently using Geometric Weather + MyRadar: https://f-droid.org/packages/wangdaye.com.geometricweather/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.acmeaom.an...

Weawow for Dark Sky data source, which is most accurate for Prague, Geometric Weather with AccuWeather would be 2nd most accurate for Prague. I fear the time Dark Sky will be shut down and there won't be replacement available (I thought there should be just under different name), if I have to resort to AW or Wunderground. :-(

The app doesn't really matter, what matters are the data sources which are most accurate for your location, Weawow, Today Weather and Weather Mate provide the most sources, so you can compare them over span of few weeks to see which one is the most accurate and has the least amount of false negative/positives based on your preference

Personally I don't really care whether the real temperature in the end is 19, 21 or 23C, it makes small difference, but it's big difference whether app tells me it's gonna rain and then it doesn't rain or vice versa when planning my schedule. Problem with most of the apps/sources I compared is they give too many false positives for rain.

For radar I just use home screen link to local Czech radars (provided either by Meteopress or CHMI), no point to have app for that.

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Post by zargon »

anshumankmr wrote: post #249

Can someone explain what was great about dark sky? All I really know about it that it was an weather app acquired by Apple from some other discussions about it. It seemingly had a "Time Machine" feature to see the past weather but is that really a game changing feature? Was the UI good ?

I really don't care about the UI, just the data. And Dark Sky data was superior to anything else I've seen.

Re: Dark Sky iOS app will no longer work from Dec 31

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Post by wyre »

freetime2 wrote: post #209
wpietri wrote: post #74

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Funny, you just explained how easy it was. But now it's so hard that Apple engineers can't just rebuild the parts they need? I think the simpler explanation is one you'll find in many comments here: Dark Sky was unusually good, and Apple bought it to get all that goodness to themselves.

> Funny, you just explained how easy it was. But now it's so hard that Apple engineers can't just rebuild the parts they need? The parent said that the data Dark Sky uses is public and that anyone could start their own alternative. They did not claim that it would be easy to do so. They also said that it was probably cheaper for Apple to buy Dark Sky than build it themselves. That does not mean that Apple can’t build…

> anyone could start their own alternative. They did not claim that it would be easy to do so.

Saying that anyone can accomplish a task posits some level of triviality or easiness that enables anyone to be able to accomplish it.

If I say anyone can lose weight, it is safe to assume that I mean losing weight is easy enough that anyone can do it.

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