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Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by aqwsde »

eldaisfish wrote: post #234
fuckmeyes wrote: post #200

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They are shit in RMA but as is every other company, most service centres are outsourced. I remember I just need a droid to remove the cmos battery from my zenbook to fix some weird power on race condition that prevented the whole thing from switching on - I didn’t have the silly screwdrivers - yet they wanted to rma it for two weeks - had to literally scream down the shop unrefined - losing face - until they relented…

Not every other company. Apple - to name one - are often simply excellent at this because they understand the power of customer satisfaction. There are numerous stories of apple replacing failed hardware with equivalent, newer models - phones and laptops alike. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms one can make of Apple but customer satisfaction under warranty is not one of them.

Ever heard of Louis Rossmann?

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by CivBase »

As a replacement for my laptop, I hate this. But as an auxiliary tablet, this is much more interesting. If I had a good use case for a tablet, a folding one that runs Windows sounds much more appealing than a flat tablet running Android or iPadOS.

My biggest complaint is that I see no indication that this could accept a video input and double as a portable display. If it did that, I would start to consider something like this for myself even without an obvious use case for a tablet.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by malfist »

anthonypasq wrote: post #210
jacquesm wrote: post #123

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Is there a similar device on the market right now? A 'bigger version' by two orders of magnitude surface wise certainly seems innovative to me, I'm not aware of another company risking their reputation on something like this at present but I'll be happy to be corrected. There was an intel proof-of-concept but I'm not aware of anything that was actually available to the public. Keep in mind that what looks trivial to…

its 100 times bigger?

Just so GP knows how much bigger "2 orders of magnitude" from the Galaxy Fold would be, it's >16 square meters of screen space. That would mean a screen north of 160" on it's diagonal. Somehow, I don't think 17" cuts it.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by dwighttk »

darkteflon wrote: post #151
tmikaeld wrote: post #131

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I was looking for a stand, but couldn't find one that's portable, what are you using?

I use a small [Neewer tripod]( https://amzn.asia/d/dhkt0hd ) connected to an Swfoto Arca-Swiss tablet holder (link below in this thread).

Aw man, not your fault, but the Amazon app does not handle the switch from US to Japan store smoothly at all

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by nicolaslem »

madoublet wrote: post #173
jfoster wrote: post #20

Looks fancy. Is this what the market wants? I don't particularly like Apple, but I use a Macbook Pro. I've been keeping an eye out for a non-Apple alternative to a Macbook, but nothing seems to come close in terms of hardware. I don't mean technical specs. I mean a beautiful screen, reasonable dimensions & weight, a really good touchpad, great battery life, etc. A big foldable screen looks cool, but doesn't feel at a…

I think most people (not devs/designers) view a laptop as something that costs around $750. That is why Windows still has a huge marketshare. Dell, Lenovo, Samsung, Microsoft all have laptops that have solid build quality, OLED screens, touchscreens, etc. at $1,500-2,200 price range but no one buys those. If you are in that price range, you are probably in one of those niche industries (design, development, graphics)…

> $1,500-2,200 price range but no one buys those.

Individuals may not but companies buy (or lease) truckloads of them.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by rattray »

darkteflon wrote: post #147
rattray wrote: post #140

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How do you attach an arca-swiss mount to a monitor?

I use [this]( https://amzn.asia/d/a74Tepm )

Ah thank you! Clever.

A US-friendly link to a similar product is https://amzn.com/dp/B09H6QV53R (I searched "arca-swiss tablet mount 300mm" to find it; there are others that only go to 230mm width for folks interested in this with smaller portable monitors).

Personally I am currently experimenting with a Lenovo ThinkVision M14[0] perched (a little precariously) atop a Roost V3 Laptop Stand[1], which is a lower-quality but lighter, more minimal setup than what you describe.

When I'm on Zoom call, which is often, I can move the laptop onto the stand for a better camera angle and put the external monitor beneath.

I'm not doing graphics work and I find the 60Hz, 1920x1080, usbc-on-both-sides monitor sufficient for my purposes (much, much better than an old asus one which was 30Hz or less, and laggy).

[0] https://amzn.com/dp/B07YX5NKK2 [1] https://amzn.com/dp/B01C9KG8IG

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

iasay wrote: post #195
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #137

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Not parent and I don't have kids but if I did, there's no way I'm giving them an ipad. They can have coloring books, crayons, Legos and building blocks, doll houses, physical plastic, wooden and plush toys, restricted access to PCs/consoles, but no portable smart devices with screens, online connection and spyware apps. By kids I'm talking about pre-teens. They can get smart devices when they're teenagers.

It's a tool. Another creative outlet. I bought my kids ipads and apple pencils and they love them. My eldest, now at university bought a new iPad Pro recently and uses that exclusively as her work computer. What you're doing is enforcing a semi-luddite position on your own kids because you can only leave them unattended with old things. Just be a parent ffs.

>I bought my kids ipads and apple pencils and they love them

Sure, but kids also love eating only sweets, watching cartoons and playing videogames all day, that doesn't mean it's always good for them.

Don't physical pencils and paper work the same without the downsides for kids, like staring into a bright screen?

And by kids I meant 3-12 year olds, not Teenagers and college age kids who need an ipad for study and productivity.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

JadeNB wrote: post #224
can16358p wrote: post #172

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So... the kids will probably not have much friends as all the other kids will be socializing online even if that's inferior to physical friendship. Good or bad, that is the norm now and if you don't let your kid access to a tablet while all the other kids do, that child will be lacking a lot of confidence and practical tech skills. A balance with both iPad time and physical activity time would be a better tradeoff IM…

> Good or bad, that is the norm now and if you don't let your kid access to a tablet while all the other kids do, that child will be lacking a lot of confidence and practical tech skills. I'm pretty sure most of us on HN grew up without access to iPads, but still somehow developed practical tech skills, including the ability to learn to use iPads.

It's not like iPads are some complex niche tech that needs to be learned from an early age otherwise you fall behind and miss out.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by sokoloff »

eldaisfish wrote: post #234
fuckmeyes wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are shit in RMA but as is every other company, most service centres are outsourced. I remember I just need a droid to remove the cmos battery from my zenbook to fix some weird power on race condition that prevented the whole thing from switching on - I didn’t have the silly screwdrivers - yet they wanted to rma it for two weeks - had to literally scream down the shop unrefined - losing face - until they relented…

Not every other company. Apple - to name one - are often simply excellent at this because they understand the power of customer satisfaction. There are numerous stories of apple replacing failed hardware with equivalent, newer models - phones and laptops alike. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms one can make of Apple but customer satisfaction under warranty is not one of them.

Agree. I had a nearly-new MacBook Air that had some weird power-on behavior. Took it to an Apple store; they ran diagnostics, found something amiss and I walked out with a brand new replacement in under an hour. (No "we have to escalate to corporate", just "You have a good TimeMachine backup? OK, here ya go...")

In summary, I got sold a defective product from a company and left with a much higher overall impression of the company.

Re: Asus Zenbook 17 Fold OLED

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Post by [deleted] »

aqwsde wrote: post #251
eldaisfish wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not every other company. Apple - to name one - are often simply excellent at this because they understand the power of customer satisfaction. There are numerous stories of apple replacing failed hardware with equivalent, newer models - phones and laptops alike. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms one can make of Apple but customer satisfaction under warranty is not one of them.

Ever heard of Louis Rossmann?

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