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Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by EUROCARE »

googlryas wrote: post #234
EUROCARE wrote: post #158

Now redo the study, but IRL and with actual status clothes == high quality materials, perfect fit, nice flashy style (that means zero logos!). I made this experiment: I have few really cheap suits (looking OK but that's it) and few very expensive suits. When I wear the cheap ones, people are normal with me. When I wear the expensive ones, people wearing normal clothes don't notice and people "in the know" (wearing ex…

What room are you getting laughed out of that is composed of normal people in normal clothes and also rich people in expensive suits, but who would laugh someone out of the room in a luxury brand? This whole comment is bizarre to me, I'm not sure what to make of it. Who cares what is ridiculous to "actually rich people"? You realize they're also just people right, with their own biases and flaws?

Sorry to confuse you, I didn't mean that to be one room, and luxury brands by themselves aren't laughable - clothing with big luxury brand logo is.

The actually rich people are those who the wannabes want to emulate, that's why I feel it has relevance.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by googlryas »

EUROCARE wrote: post #251
googlryas wrote: post #234

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What room are you getting laughed out of that is composed of normal people in normal clothes and also rich people in expensive suits, but who would laugh someone out of the room in a luxury brand? This whole comment is bizarre to me, I'm not sure what to make of it. Who cares what is ridiculous to "actually rich people"? You realize they're also just people right, with their own biases and flaws?

Sorry to confuse you, I didn't mean that to be one room, and luxury brands by themselves aren't laughable - clothing with big luxury brand logo is. The actually rich people are those who the wannabes want to emulate, that's why I feel it has relevance.

Do they though? Who sees someone in a fancy suit and then goes out and buys an expensive sweatshirt with a large logo trying to emulate them?

I think it may be the case that they're just trying to emulate different people than you.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by Apofis »

EUROCARE wrote: post #158

Now redo the study, but IRL and with actual status clothes == high quality materials, perfect fit, nice flashy style (that means zero logos!). I made this experiment: I have few really cheap suits (looking OK but that's it) and few very expensive suits. When I wear the cheap ones, people are normal with me. When I wear the expensive ones, people wearing normal clothes don't notice and people "in the know" (wearing ex…

Now redo the same study but with Stanford or Harvard branded gear. This thread is hilarious to me.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by EUROCARE »

googlryas wrote: post #252
EUROCARE wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to confuse you, I didn't mean that to be one room, and luxury brands by themselves aren't laughable - clothing with big luxury brand logo is. The actually rich people are those who the wannabes want to emulate, that's why I feel it has relevance.

Do they though? Who sees someone in a fancy suit and then goes out and buys an expensive sweatshirt with a large logo trying to emulate them? I think it may be the case that they're just trying to emulate different people than you.

Another commenter pointed out that this behavior ("class-anxious but at the same time class-confused") is described as typical for middle class by Fussel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class:_A_Guide_Through_the_Ame...

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by kingnothing »

corrral wrote: post #177
kingnothing wrote: post #128

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Also J Crew. They have great t-shirts made from actual cotton instead of plastic blends.

They also, crucially, have sizing beyond just S/M/L et c. but within each they have regular (fat) slim (kinda fat—this is me) and tall. I think I've even seen tall-slim and maybe one other size on there (do they have a Trim size for people who are actually skinny, or is that another brand I'm thinking of?) That's a must for getting a decent fit for off-the-rack clothes. Even t-shirts. Plus, they don't even put logos…

I'm a huge fan of their hoodies, that's the first thing I ever bought! I probably would have mentioned it if it was hoodie-wearing season where I live but those have been tucked away for a few months already.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

finfinfin wrote: post #202
karaterobot wrote: post #119

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That guy sounds genuine, but it gets weird when the very wealthy decide that dressing like 'regular people' is the style they want to go for. That's when you create a market for $250 pocket t-shirts and $600 denim jeans. Talk about not getting it!

To be fair, some more expensive clothes have a much better fit. I have been buying $150 jeans most of my adult life and recently read a comment on Reddit that expressed disbelief that someone would pay more than $30 for a pair of jeans.

And many others are just more expensive.

I'm one of those $30 jeans people. An old girlfriend once convinced me to try on a pair of $200 jeans ("you don't have to buy them, just try them on"). I did it just to shut her up and looked at myself wearing $200 jeans in the mirror. Fit exactly the same, material seemed better quality, stitching was the same, etc. Yes, better. But definitely not $170 better.

Then again, I think Levi's are overpriced these days.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by googlryas »

OnlyMortal wrote: post #22
r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

I’d offer that those wearing advertising logos on their clothing don’t have much understanding of fashion. Frankly, it’s vulgar.

Maybe they understand fashion and have different goals than you.

Some people want their fashion to make them blend in. Some people want their fashion to make them stand out. That doesn't mean one misunderstands it and one doesn't.

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by [deleted] »

leephillips wrote: post #140
r12343a_19 wrote: post #10

I was having this talk the other day: I hate "high end" logo clothes and don't want to compete with people that showcase their logo clothes. The average clothing store is decent enough for me. I would buy clothes with no distinctive marks if I could find them. Just plain material and colors.

Quality clothing has no visible branding. Clothes with logos are marketing to people with money but no class.

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Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by googlryas »

dylan604 wrote: post #48
ly wrote: post #6

The article's title is "Showing off your status and wealth makes you seem less co-operative", and the title here on HN is absolutely wrong. I like wearing flashy clothes myself, and I would even say it has proven advantageous to cooperation in my line of work, so I was curious about this article. However, nowhere is it stated that flashy clothes make people less likely to cooperate with you. They say wearing clothes…

I was told it is never a faux pas to show up over dressed, but it is to be under dressed. If you look like a pimp, that's one thing. Showing up in a nice pair of pants and shirt when everyone else is in shorts and t-shirts is different.

Sure it is. In the tech world at least, a lot of people will judge you negatively if you are a programmer and wear a business suit to an interview at a tech firm

Re: Wearing flashy/status clothes makes people less likely to cooperate with you

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Post by [deleted] »

sleepdreamy wrote: post #167
ftio wrote: post #38

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Came here to make this comment. More than 80% of my wardrobe is from Uniqlo, including 10 dry pique polos, 20 supima cotton tees, and 10 flannel button ups, all black. Makes getting dressed in the morning stress-free because I know I'm going to like how I look every day. The blacks do not fade — I have 5-year-old shirts that look practically as good as 6-month-old ones. Their jeans, especially their selvedge jeans, a…

Uniqlo's XXL is not true XXL so I can't wear any of their clothing :(

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