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Post by scrollaway » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 7:45 AM UTC

philliphaydon wrote: post #239

scrollaway wrote: post #233

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And what about all the times you talked about things on WhatsApp and Facebook didn’t start showing you ads about whatever? Confirmation bias is a hell of a thing; it works in many different ways. Personally over years of usage I’ve never had WhatsApp convos trigger ads.

Majority of people I talk to are Messenger, LINE, and Telegram. So I only have a few people on Facebook. The Business accounts 100% cause me to get advertising on facebook. For example last week the butcher I used to purchase from in Singapore messaged me from his business account advertising arrival of new meat. Boom I get advertising for meat products in Singapore and Taiwan. The issue is, I have only 3 chats happe…

Post by hansel_der » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 7:47 AM UTC

DeathArrow wrote: post #244

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #219

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You must have missed all the very suspicious information about Durov's close ties with Russian authorities, and that Telegram developers worked from the same office with VK in Saint-Petersburg when he claimed that they are in Germany. [1] Good choice for a dissident! (No) [1]: https://medium.com/@anton.rozenberg/friendship-betrayal-clai...

>You must have missed all the very suspicious information about Durov's close ties with Russian authorities That's rather fine in the event you don't want the Five Eyes to spy on you and you don't care if Putin reads your messages when he eats his breakfast.

Post by DocTomoe » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 7:56 AM UTC

Barrin92 wrote: post #72

DocTomoe wrote: post #60

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I wonder if you would also claim "rule of law" when let's say North Korea tries banning the German news infrastructure world-wide, or Iran bans depiction of unveiled women on the internet, or China starts going against Wikipedia with an enforceable worldwide ban because Tiannamen never happened. It is the nature of an international network that you cannot reasonably expect your government's laws to have any say on a…

well I don't think that and nobody demanded that. Telegram merely has to comply regionally concerning in this case German users or content shown to them. Tech companies differentiating their products to comply with local laws is common practice.

Post by BatteryMountain » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 8:00 AM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #14

Telegram blows my mind. Say what you want about their security; they have the absolute best UX of any (primarily 1-on-1) messaging app, bar none. Discord is a close second. But the quality and polish of telegram blows me away to this day. And it’s lots of small features and details such as built in translation for messages in a foreign language, all the smooth animations, quick look and summaries of channels with agg…

Post by KennyBlanken » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 8:21 AM UTC

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #52

scrollaway wrote: post #14

Telegram blows my mind. Say what you want about their security; they have the absolute best UX of any (primarily 1-on-1) messaging app, bar none. Discord is a close second. But the quality and polish of telegram blows me away to this day. And it’s lots of small features and details such as built in translation for messages in a foreign language, all the smooth animations, quick look and summaries of channels with agg…

> Say what you want about their security; they have the absolute best UX of any (primarily 1-on-1) messaging app, bar none. That is precisely because they don't give a shit about security. While others like Whatsapp bother with e2ee and resulting device sync problems and inability to do server-side search, Telegram just stores everything on a server without (meaningful) encryption and boldly claims that 'it is the mo…