Microsoft will include pay ranges in all U.S. job postings

Post by ketzo » Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 9:08 PM UTC

hcnews wrote: post #243

Chinjut wrote: post #198

It's incredible in these comments that so many of you who work in the industry on the employee side are arguing against having more transparency for the employee, and for having more leverage in the negotiating process for the employer instead. I want all the advantage as an employee that I can get. Any secret withheld from me is not to my advantage.

In 2022, you have to assume a fair amount of activity on popular boards/forums/subreddits/twitter etc. has been purposefully influenced by nefarious parties. In more concrete terms, I do think there are a fair amount of bots/paid-commenters on HN who push for anti-progressive agenda which helps maintain status quo.

Post by WalterBright » Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 9:16 PM UTC

cogman10 wrote: post #199

drewcon wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure why the company is responsible at an individual level for what’s going on in the Bay Area. They can’t tell you how to manage and interact with the expenses of your life. If you’re mad at anyone, walk down to city hall and tell them to build more housing.

You say this as if companies don't chose where to have their offices and their attendance policies. If a company places it's headquarters in a HCOL area and requires everyone come in 5 days a week, then yes, they have a responsibility to pay a salary high enough that their employees can survive there. If employers don't like the fact that COL is too high, THEY can go ahead and march on city hall to advocate for polit…

Post by sneak » Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 9:28 PM UTC

alistairSH wrote: post #205

drewcon wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure why the company is responsible at an individual level for what’s going on in the Bay Area. They can’t tell you how to manage and interact with the expenses of your life. If you’re mad at anyone, walk down to city hall and tell them to build more housing.

They can’t tell you how to manage and interact with the expenses of your life. No, but they can move to a lower cost area, allow WFH, or gasp pay a fair wage for the region. Employers don't have a right to cheap labor

Post by oneoff786 » Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 9:49 PM UTC

brewdad wrote: post #142

oneoff786 wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it’s not trafficking if you don’t move it across state lines?

But your state of domicile would happily seize your ill-gotten gains the minute you try to bring the money home. You may not be moving the drug across state lines but the money certainly would.

Post by fugalfervor » Fri, Jun 10, 2022, 9:59 PM UTC

drewcon wrote: post #181

kodah wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm leaving my company because it took so much "upwards pressure" to make this happen. Literally hundreds of people screaming in a townhall that the companies wages were so low that housing was eating up most of their paycheck while mandating a return to work from the top. This is in the Bay Area. I do think there's something to be said about a company that does not tend to the needs of its flock proactively.

I’m not sure why the company is responsible at an individual level for what’s going on in the Bay Area. They can’t tell you how to manage and interact with the expenses of your life. If you’re mad at anyone, walk down to city hall and tell them to build more housing.