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Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by fartcannon »

Osmose wrote: post #218
fartcannon wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer the other way around. Twitter is probably acting bad. If they update it immediately, apologize, then we can assume its not an issue. What value do you get by giving them the benefit of doubt? You just give them a way to gently manipulate you if you assume every little thing that's bad is an accident.

The alternative to "Twitter is acting bad" doesn't have to be "Twitter is completely innocent", it can be "Huh that sucks, wonder what caused that". You don't have to make an immediate judgement call on the morality of every tiny bug. The value I get from that is not spending energy judging everything immediately as soon as I see it, which, in a world with social media, is a significant savings.

I would prefer to draw attention to their bad behaviour. I'll expend my energy. You can enjoy the benefits.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by tehlike »

fartcannon wrote: post #243
s1artibartfast wrote: post #212

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So do you really think a team at twitter sat down and thought, lets block mastodon for a day to avoid some customer bleed, then we can do damage control, but it will be worth it in the end?

Yes.

In the command center, while drinking a glass of wine...

Let's kill it, board said.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by egypturnash »

Volker_W wrote: post #225
egypturnash wrote: post #23

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It is generally known in the artist circles I hang out in that Twitter’s algorithm loves to hide links to Patreon. They may also hide tweets that merely mention it, as well as other words crucial to the business of being an artist online like “commission”, which leads to creative misspellings like “Half off on c!miss!ons for my Petreon supporters this week!”. (Twitter loves to hide off-site links in general. Leaving…

> Twitter loves to hide off-site links in general. Do you have a source/proof for me?

Enough of my artist friends who pay closer attention to their analytics than I do have done tests and seen much lower engagement on offsite links that I take this as how things work but I can’t give you any particular links, sorry.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by can16358p »

tehlike wrote: post #214
can16358p wrote: post #164

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Well it's not my job, though even by looking at spam accounts on Twitter I can easily pinpoint common patterns that can be extremely successful at preventing spam at Twitter, MUCH better than blacklisting domains. It's dead obvious that they do not want it. The reasons why is beyond me.

"it's not my job". Someone whose job it is made a few mistakes. you must have made a shit ton of mistake too. Claiming otherwise is stupid. What you and i can pinpoint on twitter spam is independent of "everything is evil". Difference.

Of course everyone does mistakes, but that's not the point.

Twitter is just too powerful with all those engineers and access to ML to have this just as a mistake.

Whoever is responsible for that flagging is either:

- Incredibly incompetent and not knowing what they were doing (which I honestly don't want to believe)

- Knew exactly what they were doing and it's intentional with a benefit of doubt with plausible deniability.

Unintentionally blocking a whole domain "by mistake" falls into the first point above.

Knowing track record of social media companies hiring good engineers and being evil, also knowing Mastodon being a competitor to Twitter, I don't think I need to tell much more.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by alaricus »

tehlike wrote: post #231
alaricus wrote: post #140

This is textbook anti-competitive behaviour. I hope the EU regulators jump on this and give a hefty fine to Twitter.

You really should learn laws better before claiming textbook anti competitive.

Blocking competitor websites is anti-competitive behaviour under EU law.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by tehlike »

alaricus wrote: post #255
tehlike wrote: post #231

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You really should learn laws better before claiming textbook anti competitive.

Blocking competitor websites is anti-competitive behaviour under EU law.

Lol. Intent matters, context matters, and in this case it's not intentional. also please show me the law so we can discuss where you are missing the context.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by danuker »

dewey wrote: post #113
danuker wrote: post #105

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> With custom lists and a third party client you can basically use it like an RSS reader if you want to. Or, you know, skip sharing your personal data and use an RSS reader.

To each their own. Personally I feel like I'm getting value out of following what certain people are talking about on Twitter. The time where everyone had their personal blogs that you could follow are unfortunately over.

Nitter.net provides RSS feeds for Twitter accounts.

Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by [deleted] »

mardifoufs wrote: post #244
stimpson_j_cat wrote: post #173

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Yes that's the go-to copypasta reply. ("Literally" here meaning "not literally.") Twitter changed their policy in response to criticism of the Biden tweets to "no longer remove hacked material unless it’s directly shared by hackers or those working with them" including the rally database, and they restored previously removed tweets about Biden. So by your own measure, very believable.

That's very convenient! The problem is that they didn't enforce that policy before the laptop leaks either. Not in any significant way and no media outlet ever got their account banned for reporting on a hack before (or after).

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Re: Twitter Blocks Linking to Mastodon.social

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Post by stimpson_j_cat »

mardifoufs wrote: post #244
stimpson_j_cat wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes that's the go-to copypasta reply. ("Literally" here meaning "not literally.") Twitter changed their policy in response to criticism of the Biden tweets to "no longer remove hacked material unless it’s directly shared by hackers or those working with them" including the rally database, and they restored previously removed tweets about Biden. So by your own measure, very believable.

That's very convenient! The problem is that they didn't enforce that policy before the laptop leaks either. Not in any significant way and no media outlet ever got their account banned for reporting on a hack before (or after).

The ~7000 QAnon accounts they banned don't fit your narrative I'm afraid.

There are now several intermediate steps they've added since then, like clear warnings [1]. This allows the account to stay active and still report on stolen data. Much better IMO, banning accounts is common practice, but too heavy-handed as to be the only tool Twitter has.

https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/13632755827845529...

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