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Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

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So we should ignore that crypto is being used a fraction of the time as much as financial products that are worth several times less, because global markets are large? Should every product have a 1 trillion plus valuation because global markets are large? I just never actually see evidence that crypto has taken over global finance or is well on its way to doing so.

The point is that it's not being used a fraction of the time, because you take small fraction of total humans on earth (7B+) and it's a larger number than a large fraction of total humans in the US (320M). There are 100M crypto users in India, for example - that's only about 7%, but 7% of 1.5B is a larger number than 11.8% (market share of JP Morgan Chase, the largest U.S. bank) of 320M. Worldwide, crypto users are a…

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It is indeed a taxable event. People who exchange crypto for “stable”coins are generally doing so to stay out of the KYC banking realm so they can lie about their transactions to their country’s tax authorities.

i pay my taxes. i make money providing liquidity between eth and usdc. when i'm not lp'ing, i see no reason to switch to usd so long as us-based attestations continue to be solid. the opportunity cost of being in usd on coinbase is missing lucrative nft deals.

How solid can an attestation be vs an audit?

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> Why would anyone buy Tether at this point? There's zero upside potential, after all. Tether, and "stablecoins" in general are known as the casino chips of Crypto. A way to exchange more volatile crypto for what is supposed to be essentially dollars without creating a taxable event. Assuming crypto is still something people want to trade, that's still a valuable service. Tether isn't supposed to be an investment. It…

I think what OP meant was why would anyone hold Tether at this point instead of a more transparent and less fudded stabelcoin like USDC

The temptation is too great. If the stablecoin has a non-zero administrative cost, someone has to pay it. And if no-one wants to pay it, then it is going to have to invest a portion of the dollars it holds to make up the difference (and to ultimately reward the creators / seed investors).

There are probably no 100% cash-backed stablecoins.

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Which exchange pays you those 5-7% and why do they do that?

There is even better rates available. The Anchor protocol pays 20% APR! And the principal is protected as described in the white paper, > Anchor offers a principal-protected stablecoin savings product that pays depositors a stable interest rate. It achieves this by stabilizing the deposit interest rate with block rewards accruing to assets that are used to borrow stablecoins. source: https://www.anchorprotocol.com/do…

Uhmmmm lmao have you not seen the algorithmic stable coins getting smoked recently?

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Chinese real estate companies are defaulting on their international bonds en masse and CN government has shown no interest in bailing them on that end.

Better to be backed by overvalued, sketchy physical real estate than nothing at all (see also: TerraUSD).

They are backed by companies with near-zero or less than zero valuation (liabilities > assets). Many of these companies that are defaulting have no money on hand but have already sold apartments that they have not even started building yet.

They are equivalent to a crypto that the market has lost faith in (both are worth nothing).

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You can get locked out of your bank account due to institutional incompetence (happened to a friend of mine in Spain) or due to being on the wrong side of a political argument (e.g. donating to the protesting truckers in Canada). I think there's a lot of value in being slightly harder to oppress by the political classes or arse-covering and uncaring bank managers.

And the solution is? Have a system where I can lose ALL my money by forgetting a password? Or when a crypto exchange goes boom and my life's savings are not FDIC ensured? I am sure your friend could get back in into the bank account. Being a random subject to a dumb banking accident is not the reason to upend the financial lives of billions.

If you can loose all your live savings by forgetting one password or one company going down, you made some terrible decision when it came to diversification of investments

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Technically, isn’t selling one asset and buying another precisely the definition of a taxable event? I don’t see how tether helps you avoid taxes unless you’re going to lie about your transactions and hope nobody notices.

You don't report income on every item you shuffle. In the spirit of US law (since crypto is t precisely classified), if you are a professional trader, you only pay taxes on your overall annual trading profits, not each individual trade. Same as how a a retail store doesn't have gains and losses on every individual item in inventory.

No, that’s not true. The IRS has given guidance on this.

> explaining that virtual currency is treated as property for Federal income tax purposes and providing examples of how longstanding tax principles applicable to transactions involving property apply to virtual currency.[0]

Also, every crypto tax software does exactly what you say is not required. A bit of signal there.

[0] https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/freq...

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Oh it’s even worse. For a while now some[0] have suggested part of the backing is in bonds issues by Chinese real estate companies [0] https://twitter.com/thelastbearsta1/status/14690072004965908...

Chinese real estate would be considerably better than crypto company loans, tbh.

According to Advchina, the underlying asset is of such poor quality that they will be torn down or abandoned. And from my understanding owning a property doesn’t mean you own it forever. It’s time limited by the government.

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#259
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And the solution is? Have a system where I can lose ALL my money by forgetting a password? Or when a crypto exchange goes boom and my life's savings are not FDIC ensured? I am sure your friend could get back in into the bank account. Being a random subject to a dumb banking accident is not the reason to upend the financial lives of billions.

If you can loose all your live savings by forgetting one password or one company going down, you made some terrible decision when it came to diversification of investments

The world in which the majority of citizens is financially literate does not exist, and "crypto" is not going to magically fix it. This libertarian free-for-all paradise will result in scores of ruined citizens, who then will have to be taken care of by society anyway. Crypto is a solution in search of a problem.

Re: Top stablecoins shed $7B in May as traders redeem tokens en masse

#260

Look I am very ignorant about all this stuff but ... is there any downside to shorting a stablecoin? Please be gentle with me: Like if you short it and the price doesn't move (by design) are you out any money? The price won't go up (by design) because nobody's going to spend too much money from their reserves to support a price over US$1. But it's possible for the reserves to run dry in which case the price goes down…

Yes, there is essentially no downside.

I do it; on Aave you can deposit USDC and borrow USDT against it, earning an interest on USDC and paying interest on the USDT. It currently costs me about 3 APR to short Tether. What's nice is that you can iterate the strategy, e.g. deposit 1000 USDC, borrow 950 USDT, swap this USDT for USDC, deposit the USDC, borrow more USDT...

https://app.aave.com/ offers "E-mode", which lets you borrow stablecoins worth up to 99 % of the stablecoins you deposited.

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