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Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Re: Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Post by caterpi11ar »

florplea wrote: post #172
caterpi11ar wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Bible passage is about God blowing His breath into Adam who was non-biological clay up to that point. It has nothing to do with Adam taking his first breath. Obviously, Adam was never a foetus, nor was he a child, nor a teenager. As according to this passage life starts when you are a full grown man, should we allow abortions into the 108th trimester?

Yes, we should. HN threads and Twitter would enjoy a significant improvement, at the very least.

reconsidering all my stances...

Re: Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Post by toffi-fee »

Stupid question: Wouldnʼt it be alright if an open source messenger scans messages locally against a secret word list and only sends it to police if there's a hit, otherwise only send it to the recipient with the usual end-to-end encryption?

The secret word list would need to be curated and digitally signed by several parties, including data security advocates to ensure that it doesn't simply contain the entire dictionary.

Re: Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Post by visarga »

rektide wrote: post #34

I really really look forward to a world where internet service providers simply stop bowing to shitty unhealthy demands of sovereign powers. I (admittedly, a no-one) have no intent to respect this & every intent to eacallate my efforts to help people fight off pernicious piece of shit legislation. On the plus side, the pushes towards hosting-it-yourself keep going up. The fact that all our rights online are granted b…

> making this an ask not against service providers but against private persons,

Good luck convincing a divided mass of people to do the same thing.

Re: Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Post by vletal »

toffi-fee wrote: post #253

Stupid question: Wouldnʼt it be alright if an open source messenger scans messages locally against a secret word list and only sends it to police if there's a hit, otherwise only send it to the recipient with the usual end-to-end encryption? The secret word list would need to be curated and digitally signed by several parties, including data security advocates to ensure that it doesn't simply contain the entire dicti…

It's like online voting. It works as long as the government does not have a malicious intent of staying in power indefinitely.

Then the secret word list might include stuff like "free speech" or "Uighur" and the world would go to hell.

Re: Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Post by dang »

perihelions wrote: post #40
woliveirajr wrote: post #22

What's that "%ef%bf%bc" at the end of the link ?

Some obscure unicode character U+FFFC, represented in the url bar as the %-escaped sequence of the bytes of its utf-8 encoding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specials_(Unicode_block) No idea where it comes from, but it randomly peppers some people's comments and posts for no obvious reason: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%EF%BF%BC I'll paste one here between double quotes: " ". To me, it shows up variously as either "…

Most likely those comments were posted before we started filtering out those char ranges.

Re: Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Post by Ensorceled »

caterpi11ar wrote: post #249
Ensorceled wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Ok, if you're willing to renounce the style of 14 year old who just saw their first Hitchslap video Well, this is a pleasant, open minded start... but thank you for the references. > much in the same way that life-at-conception was mainstream biology until the moment it became politicized. I think most mainstream biologist believe that a fetus is living cells and, hence, life. Most mainstream biologists would not,…

When I was an atheist, I eventually came to understand that the belief that saying that a new organism created by two humans wasn't itself human was essentially a euphemism I could use to keep myself sane while still arguing in favour of abortion on social harmony grounds. But it is difficult to lie to oneself.

At a minimum, it is logical to assume a human life biologically begins at the same time it ends ... using brain function. Any argument that a fetus with nothing but a brain stem, or a brain damaged adult with only a functioning brain stem remaining, is 'alive' is based on "sanctity of life" or other religious or pseudo religious beliefs.

As an atheist, I have no qualms or guilt about choosing to pull the plug on any biological "human" without a functioning cerebrum and cerebellum.

The third trimester is when the abortion debate gets at all tricky for me.

Re: Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Post by Macha »

citilife wrote: post #244
munk-a wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> universally accessible Somewhat - these things take money. State IDs aren't free and neither are proofs of residency. ID laws are discriminatory against the poor which is likely somewhat aligned with political illiteracy but through a correlation in our current system. A national voting day coupled with advanced voting would probably help our vote equality quite a bit and having the actual voting day be a holiday w…

> ID laws are discriminatory against the poor which is likely somewhat aligned with political illiteracy but through a correlation in our current system. To get public services in the U.S. you need to have an ID, i.e. food stamps. It's a talking point that is not a real problem. Identifiers of who you are, are a requirement for free and fair elections. Otherwise, everyone just cheats and there is no democracy. Furthe…

Unless one of the two parties decides that your race is less likely to vote for them, so goes around making the forms of ID most commonly held by people of your race ineligible as voter ID.

Re: Chat control: EU Commission presents mass surveillance plan on May 11

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Post by toffi-fee »

vletal wrote: post #255
toffi-fee wrote: post #253

Stupid question: Wouldnʼt it be alright if an open source messenger scans messages locally against a secret word list and only sends it to police if there's a hit, otherwise only send it to the recipient with the usual end-to-end encryption? The secret word list would need to be curated and digitally signed by several parties, including data security advocates to ensure that it doesn't simply contain the entire dicti…

It's like online voting. It works as long as the government does not have a malicious intent of staying in power indefinitely. Then the secret word list might include stuff like "free speech" or "Uighur" and the world would go to hell.

That's why I mentioned the multiple parties. But I understand your point. It would just be the next step for them to sneak in all kinds of words.
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