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Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by anticensor »

WalterBright wrote: post #203
PaulHoule wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately people see accessibility as a burden that a small minority puts on the rest of us, but really it is something that benefits everyone. For instance, normally sighted people or even people with "normal" nearsightedness, farsightedness, or presbyopia benefit from adequate contrast. Text "size" is another thing because people should be able to control it, particularly given the wide range of different devic…

I have the default font size boosted slightly. A large percentage of web sites and applications don't work with it, the text is cut off. Even ones from Microsoft. The irony is you have to work to get this to not work. HTML by default will render just fine. Developers just can't resist customizing it so it doesn't work. My web sites use plain HTML as much as possible. They're derided for being "Web 1.0", but they work…

I have Dark Reader installed, adding to that, I actually changed my browser's (Firefox) base font colours to light text on dark background to prevent white flashing issues in pages that ignore dark stylesheets.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by lsaferite »

login01 wrote: post #249

Could you add the watts, voltage & amperage, to each of the standards? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB . USB Power Delivery Rev. 1.0 (V. 1.0) 2012-07-05 100 W (20 V, 5 A) USB Power Delivery Rev. 1.0 (V. 1.3) 2014-03-11 100 W (20 V, 5 A) USB Power Delivery Rev. 2.0 (V. 1.0) 2014-08-11 100 W (20 V, 5 A) USB Power Delivery Rev. 2.0 (V. 1.1) 2015-05-07 100 W (20 V, 5 A) USB Power Delivery Rev. 2.0 (V. 1.2) 2016-03-25 1…

I feel like this comment is on the wrong thread maybe?

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by krapp »

barnabee wrote: post #239
krapp wrote: post #209

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>If we want a free and open internet, why is the current web designed to let server owners control our experience? Because server owners have the freedom to publish whatever they like (within the bounds of the law) and design their sites however they wish. An internet on which servers are only allowed to provide "structured content" would be significantly less free and open. You may be interested in the Gemini Protoc…

They can send whatever data they like but they have no right of control over what I do with it or how it’s rendered. Browsers would be better if they prioritised user preferences over website designers.

>Browsers would be better if they prioritised user preferences over website designers.

The vast majority of users would prefer not to have to write an entire layout and stylesheet for each site they visit, nor would they consider having all sites conform to a single layout or style to be of any value. It's only very small minority of people (probably exclusive to HN) who would prefer the web was nothing more than JSON or raw bitstreams.

But again - geminispace works the way you want. Gemtext doesn't use stylesheets and only has very basic markup. Everything is dictated and controlled by the browser. And the protocol is specifically designed such that writing a client for it is easy.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by eyelidlessness »

es7 wrote: post #238

If you leave zoom enabled on mobile, then the browser tries to handle double-tap-to-zoom, which adds a surprisingly large delay to all taps while it waits to see if there is a second tap coming. This makes websites feel sluggish and unresponsive. Is there a good way to get lightning-fast response times to tap events without disabling zoom in 2022?

CSS one liner:

  a, button, .etc { touch-action: manipulation; }

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by Sxubas »

IMSAI8080 wrote: post #92
sph wrote: post #22

My pet theory: I'm pretty sure this is because when HTML5 became a thing, some major tech blog showed us what an HTML5 page would look like (simplified doctype, meta charset) and they included the viewport settings that disabled zoom. Then pretty much everyone copied from these guides, and here we are. I remember I had used HTML5 skeleton templates for a while before I learned that the "maximum-scale=1, user-scalable…

In the late 90s and early 2000s every second bank round these parts decided to do their entire website in Flash. Not just some animations and videos, but I mean the actual entire content of the site was Flash, no HTML. As well as being basically unusable search engines wouldn't index it either so you couldn't find anything.

Sounds so dystopic, I glad I was not old enough to use online banking back then

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by commandlinefan »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #157

Don't disable zoom, and stop fucking with scrolling. Browser scrolling works fine. You don't need to try to re-implement smooth scrolling, it never works and makes my scrolling bounce around like mad. One website override my scrolling speed entirely. I like it so that 1 click = 2 lines of scrolling. That site changed it to that 1 click = 1/2 line, but for some reason the web dev thought they knew better than my prefe…

It drives me crazy when I try to scroll up to re-read something and the header pops up and covers what I was trying to scroll to.

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by Reason077 »

bradlys wrote: post #94
Reason077 wrote: post #9

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What mobile browser? On iOS Safari, all the example websites mentioned by the OP allowed me to zoom. I guess Safari doesn’t allow zoom to be disabled by websites? Maybe all browsers should work this way?

I've had this happen on iOS Safari. It happens everywhere.

Weird. I don’t see this, or maybe I’m misunderstanding the problem. Do you have an example site?

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by Reason077 »

hedora wrote: post #207
jnovek wrote: post #146

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For those of us with disabilities, this is every situation of our lives all the time. The disadvantage of being disabled doesn’t come from the way that disability limits us as much as it comes from the countless ways it makes all the normal things people do slightly harder. Advocates fight to change these things not because it’s easy to do but because eliminating at least some of the hurdles in life makes our overall…

Being left handed is a mild version of this. I think it cultivates a healthy mindset though: At an early age, you learn that all assymetric tools were designed by idiots, so by kindergarten, you're already questioning everything. I suspect this is why lefties are drastically overrepresented in leadership positions, NASA, etc.

Apparently a Harvard study found that on average, lefties earn less, die younger, and are more prone to alcoholism!

Source: https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2015/beyond-bls/left-versus-rig...

According to the research, “lefties are generally born with a different brain structure that negatively affects their social and cognitive abilities.”

Re: Please stop disabling zoom

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Post by Reason077 »

amluto wrote: post #2

It’s not just accessibility. I’ve last track of the number of times I’ve seen a mobile website with a table that extends past the right side of the viewport and zoom disabled. You can’t scroll, and you can’t zoom, so you can’t read the table.

maximum-scale and user-scalable=no seem like browser mis-features. Perhaps the OP would have more success appealing to browser developers to follow Apple and Samsung’s lead, and get browsers to ignore them?
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