Why do rusdians waste time on this when they should be getting fuel to their fuel starved convoys?
Zelensky video deepfake
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Re: Zelensky video deepfake
#252Well they did one of trump and that was pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_jrebvmPlk&t=14s
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
That might be the best way to make him do something. When he realizes that people think the fake video makes sense, he'll claim the video was real out of spite and start defending a reasonable position.
Trump never came around to accepting Covid had to be dealt with (doing so would have easily given him a second term), and is just barely starting to condemn Putler. This idea that Trump masterfully chooses his positions based on popular effectiveness is highly overrated.
With him, everything was a calculation. Admitting COVID was a serious issue was thought to bring an end to the stock market boom, which was the big economic win for his re-election campaign. The market crashed anyway, before recovering ahead of the election.
In any case, 2020 might be the first time enough voters realized that a bull run on Wall St doesn't move the needle much for their own economic well-being.
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#254In Swedish telephone directories there used to be a section entitled "Om kriget kommer" (If there's war). Prominent among it was the phrase: > Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt. (Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false). No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine. https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...
I'm Swedish and I've always loved this phrase. It's short and concise, and it stirs something inside you even if you're mostly devoid of nationalistic tendencies. The continuation of the phrase mentioned later in the same pamphlet is also nice: SV: Motstånd skall göras ständigt och i alla lägen. EN: Resistance shall be made constantly and in all situations. It also mentions the classic "En svensk tiger" (lit. "A Swed…
> Minor nitpick, the correct translation isn't "resistance has ceased" but "resistance shall cease".
Du har rätt :)
I quoted and translated from memory, then googled for the correct quote.
The current statement is:
> Om Sverige blir angripet av ett annat land kommer vi aldrig att ge upp. Alla uppgifter om att motståndet ska upphöra är falska.
Re: Zelensky video deepfake
#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be completely fair, we don't know that it was staged just for the photograph. We don't know who moved the cannonballs, or why they moved them. All we know is that there are two photographs, and that the one without the cannonballs on the road came first.
we can infer a little bit more than that. The framing of the two photographs is exactly the same (look at the two rocks in the lower right hand corner), and so that camera was almost certainly not moved between the frames. That seems pretty improbable to me if the cannonballs were actually delivered by cannons.
On the other hand, he could've taken a photo before the road was cleared for travel, no?
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But @paganel apparently thinks it’s totally okay to bomb I didn't say that, way to go. Come on, this is HN, not some sub-reddit shithole.
You did say exactly that. > it did raise some questions for me when a Russian bomb (that killed about 20 civilians) did its thing in Kyiv very close to a boulevard named after Bandera. Bandera is of course a war criminal and a Nazi collaborator. A bomb killed 20 civilians. Who the fuck cares if a street it fell onto was named after a war criminal? Makes it a legit target? So, let's carpet bomb all those Strada Ion An…
Where in the world are you getting it from that the name of the street made it ok to bomb? He's saying that he learned of the street because the Russians bombing it was newsworthy given that it killed 20 people. Then what followed from him learning that the street exists with the name Bandera, was him thinking that maybe there could be some support for Nazis still remaining in Ukraine. Similar to how seeing a street named after a Confederate fighter would make someone think that maybe there's still some love for the Confederacy in the US (which is actually accurate!)
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
we can infer a little bit more than that. The framing of the two photographs is exactly the same (look at the two rocks in the lower right hand corner), and so that camera was almost certainly not moved between the frames. That seems pretty improbable to me if the cannonballs were actually delivered by cannons.
On the other hand, he could've taken a photo before the road was cleared for travel, no?
I suppose that is possible. But then I'd expect to see canon balls somewhere like by the side of the road. Why take the trouble to move them all entirely out of frame?
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#258In Swedish telephone directories there used to be a section entitled "Om kriget kommer" (If there's war). Prominent among it was the phrase: > Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt. (Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false). No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine. https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...
I'm Swedish and I've always loved this phrase. It's short and concise, and it stirs something inside you even if you're mostly devoid of nationalistic tendencies. The continuation of the phrase mentioned later in the same pamphlet is also nice: SV: Motstånd skall göras ständigt och i alla lägen. EN: Resistance shall be made constantly and in all situations. It also mentions the classic "En svensk tiger" (lit. "A Swed…
Fellow swede, same here. It always makes me think of these guys:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout
Last confirmed holdout in 1974, almost 30 years after ww2 ended for Japan.
Re: Zelensky video deepfake
#259In Swedish telephone directories there used to be a section entitled "Om kriget kommer" (If there's war). Prominent among it was the phrase: > Varje meddelande att motsåndet ska uppges är falskt. (Every message stating that resistance has ceased is false). No doubt something similar is stated in Ukraine. https://www.forsvarsmakten.se/siteassets/5-information-och-f...
> In Swedish telephone directories there used to be a section entitled "Om kriget kommer" (If there's war).
I love this, as in California the phone directories all had a section about what to do in an earthquake and other emergency. Local knowledge for local situations.
The reason was that in those days the telephone book was the only book you could guarantee would be in every house (the unstated reason was that it was the only thing a government could use to push a message into every house -- even in the US where the phone system was nominally private, the government exerted significant pressure on their operations).
I wonder how many people even knew that section existed, much less consulted it.
Re: Zelensky video deepfake
#260Interestingly Zelensky might be easier to deepfake than other world leaders because there's more footage and a wider variety of facial expressions to train on due to his acting career
That's true for now, but eventually, as the technology progresses, it will take very little training data to create deepfakes of anyone unfortunately. Probably just a minute or two of video.
The real threat I think will not be in trying to trick people with fake videos, but instead deep flags: create fake videos showing awful things about the politician one wants to win, and then attribute the fakes to supporters of the guy you want to lose and make them look like animals.
Especially in coordination with a media campaign, it would be an effective way of undermining the opponent by making them look simultaneously grossly unethical and desperate. Even better if you can get the FBI involved to investigate whether the video was created directly by the opponent or "only" by his supporters. And anybody describing what actually happened could easily be straw manned into sounding like a nutter.
And the quality is already perfectly fine for this.