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Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by 5ESS »

olyjohn wrote: post #202
5ESS wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have fun missing out on M1. Mac OS Monterey looks fine to me especially on dark mode. What ui element you use often is neon pastel colored exactly besides the window controls and the loading cursor? (Which we’re almost always colorful)

Oh no! I'm going to miss out on a processor which is faster than some other processor under certain workloads! Please say it ain't so! Oh god what ever will I do with this x86-based Mac? I guess I'll throw it out for fear of missing out on... something...

Nothing else competes for power:performance ratio. Furthermore only M1s can score 300+ on browserbench. I bet the M1 Ultra will score in the 350-400 range, while Windows PCs can barely peak 220. This is because M1s have AI cores designed specially optimized for web browsing instructions. Browsing the internet simply feels 30% smoother on my M1 than it does on any x86 PC (I use chrome-dev --args --enable-features=CanvasOopRasterization --use-cmd-decoder=passthrough on both OS's) So if you do browser heavy workloads and web app programming like I do nothing else competes.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by mortenjorck »

rchaud wrote: post #200

First things first: I don't think there's anything wrong with the design based on the screenshots. At least, nothing stands out as being so unusable that users would flee for your competitor. As for "Gen Z preferences", I don't think there's enough to go on here to prove that. I'm over 35 and have watched user interfaces go from the the fun, colourful and UNIQUE designs of the 2009-era iOS apps to the hyper-corporate…

Beyond a few distinguishing elements, the design of the author's app and the design of the purported Gen-Z app aren't really all that far apart.

At the basic level, both are built on a contemporary, minimalist UI discipline, with a similar approach to visually differentiating elements like buttons and fields. The later mostly distinguishes itself typographically, adopting a very trendy "brutalist" type family, with associated practices like mixing widths in the same line. The only other differences are more saturated, high-contrast colors and ambient animation.

The end result for the latter may be considerably less minimalist, but the foundations have a lot more in common than they have differences.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by cptcobalt »

As a product manager, I read this and found a founder clinically dismissive of user perspectives and feedback that doesn't align with their own internal viewpoints. Confirmation bias to the n-th degree. His quote of her feedback ("It's so exciting. Every time I open it, it makes me happy. Sometimes they have doge pop up!") is almost certainly embellished and is a non-empathetic take on a genuine user perspective.

The mock [1] even radiates the "millennial snowflakes" energy that used to be prevalent, with the "You are unique. You are different".

Thinking about it further, I actually think this is a super clickbait way to get hits and link clout? If you look at their blog [2], it's really just advertising all of the different dating verticals this company runs. And gosh, the names are horrifically cringey. "Sappho Dating", "Matzoball Dating", "Subtle Curry Dating"?

1: https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/6197f007be798d88368f80d7/623... 2: https://www.getfilteroff.com/blog

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by carlisle_ »

replygirl wrote: post #207
carlisle_ wrote: post #70

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> I blame Ritalin for this type of video, either someone took too much or needs to up their dosage. Maybe I’m overly sensitive, but I’m really tired of ADHD ableist jokes like this one. With the controversy and struggles of medication for ADHD, implying that the only functional ADHD brain is a medicated one just frankly sucks.

there are people who have to sleep outside, you know

Did you reply to the wrong comment by chance?

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Post by jkaptur »

rchaud wrote: post #200

First things first: I don't think there's anything wrong with the design based on the screenshots. At least, nothing stands out as being so unusable that users would flee for your competitor. As for "Gen Z preferences", I don't think there's enough to go on here to prove that. I'm over 35 and have watched user interfaces go from the the fun, colourful and UNIQUE designs of the 2009-era iOS apps to the hyper-corporate…

It's funny that you bring up grid systems, because the screenshot of the partiful really evokes how some designers have played with grid systems in decidedly non-minimalist ways: e.g. https://vanle.info/blog/2021/february/josef-muller-brockmann...

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by awb »

munificent wrote: post #182

> I stare at the page for a second. My brain hurts. I hate it. It felt... distracting, maximal, cluttered, weirdly transparent. Little sparkles animate over the page. > "How old are you?" I asked. > "Twenty-five." > "Of course you are." You will never, ever, ever do good design while holding your audience in contempt. They are fully and completely entitled to their aesthetic preferences and those preferences have abs…

I’d argue you should always design for yourself and build products you want.

When your needs aren’t in alignment with your user’s needs then you’re the wrong person for the job anyway.

User feedback is important for getting additional insights, but the implementation of the feedback should always feel correct to you too.

Re: Light mode, Dark mode, and Gen-Z mode?

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Post by blihp »

rchaud wrote: post #200

First things first: I don't think there's anything wrong with the design based on the screenshots. At least, nothing stands out as being so unusable that users would flee for your competitor. As for "Gen Z preferences", I don't think there's enough to go on here to prove that. I'm over 35 and have watched user interfaces go from the the fun, colourful and UNIQUE designs of the 2009-era iOS apps to the hyper-corporate…

What's old is new again. It's not a generational thing, it's a market maturity thing.

There were plenty of unique UI's in the 80's (every OS with a GUI had a distinct look and feel) and 90's (most OS GUIs had started to look and feel like Windows but a few daring applications took a chance to be different). Kai's Power Tools[1] was my favorite as it had a distinctive look and feel but was entirely functional. There were a number Mac apps with carefully crafted and unique UI's in the pre-iOS days which no doubt took a ton of effort vs. just making a bland Windows-esque UI.

It's not so much that developers stop wanting to push the envelope, it's that beyond being an early stage differentiation gimmick, users don't tend to reward them for very long for the effort. So developers focus on what they do get rewarded for which tend to be the checkbox features vs. their competition and the UI is demoted to whatever the lowest-effort fashion of the day is. Even Apple seems to have settled on slapping on a fresh coat of paint every few years and calling it a day.

[1] https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/kais-power-tools-30

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Post by tehbeard »

_lqaf wrote: post #176
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #113

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Welcome to what millennials have experienced for a couple decades: Older generations who think they know exactly what the younger generations want based on little more than a stereotype or maybe the feedback from one young person they spoke to once.

Millennials are spoiled by the attention. The Committee for Generational Distinctions is still trying to erase the existence of GenXers. But it all gets better in your 40s. That's when you and your peers start to have enough power and money to be catered to. And when the 20-somethings start bitching about you. > Older generations who think they know exactly what the younger generations This is frequently called 'soci…

> But it all gets better in your 40s. That's when you and your peers start to have enough power and money to be catered to.

laughs, then starts weeping in perpetual renter

Honestly, I've seen more camaraderie between millennial & genZ than adversity. Both of us got the luck to be born to "interesting times".

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