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Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by jonfw »

fluidcruft wrote: post #165
youhavetosayit wrote: post #130

Remarkable 2 is better, because of the features it doesn't have. The best feature of Remarkable 2 is how quiet it is, it doesn't do anything except for Book reading and note taking. No notifications, no messaging, no email, quiet tech.

Has PDF annotation improved on Remarkable 2? Otherwise it's trival to disable notifications, messaging, email etc (at least on Boox and there are quite good youtube tutorials about how to do this), so that's not a particularly strong differentiation. "You can have any color you want as long as it's black" only works as a selling point if other cars can't be black.

"You can have any color you want as long as it's black" isn't the selling point. The selling point is- "This car was designed to be black, and looks better in black than other cars."

It's like how my screwdriver is significantly better at driving screws than my swiss army knife. Purposeful design drives a better experience

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by fluidcruft »

jonfw wrote: post #251
fluidcruft wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has PDF annotation improved on Remarkable 2? Otherwise it's trival to disable notifications, messaging, email etc (at least on Boox and there are quite good youtube tutorials about how to do this), so that's not a particularly strong differentiation. "You can have any color you want as long as it's black" only works as a selling point if other cars can't be black.

"You can have any color you want as long as it's black" isn't the selling point. The selling point is- "This car was designed to be black, and looks better in black than other cars." It's like how my screwdriver is significantly better at driving screws than my swiss army knife. Purposeful design drives a better experience

In this case it doesn't. PDF is vastly superior on other devices.

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Post by smilespray »

01100011 wrote: post #239
turtlebits wrote: post #212

The hardware is a dime a dozen now, what differentiates all these products is the software. I'm pretty skeptical on hardware companies making their own software interfaces. I tried the Boox and while having Android is compelling, the writing experience kinda sucks. I prefer the Remarkable for having fewer but more polished features.

Doesn't the HW have something to do with the responsiveness? Hasn't that been a significant issue with eInk devices in the past, or is that resolved now? In any case, the atrocities being committed in Ukraine have finally convinced me it is long past time to divest myself from Chinese slaveware. I have nothing but kindness for the people of Russia and China but will no longer voluntarily support companies in those co…

How you implement the software makes a huge difference for e-ink displays.

The display is quite slow, so you have to implement delta screen updates instead of full-screen refreshes.

You also have to deal with ghosting in a similar manner that doesn't require the entire screen to flash from black to white several times.

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Post by rvbissell »

horsawlarway wrote: post #235
falcolas wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Remarkable 2 is better, because of the features it doesn't have. Like syncing local notes using common cloud services? Technically, the feature's there, but it's locked behind a $100 per year "service". Rant aside, I have an iPad mini where I turned all notifications off. Just as good as if it didn't have those features when I don't care about them - but if I need them they're right there.

> Like syncing local notes using common cloud services? Technically this is present on the Remarkable if you're willing to fiddle with the device some. They give you root by default (and provide an ssh service if the device is connected over usb), and the community has implemented quite a few syncing options. That said - I was also very bummed to see them introduce the paid service. I'd really like them to succeed by…

On my android devices, squelching unwanted notifications feels like whack-a-mole. I haven't been tracking it exactly, but it feels like various updated apps keep inventing new categories of notifications to get around my previous de-selections.

Clarification: the above are apps for which I still want /useful/ notifications, so I can't disable all notifications for them out-right.

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Post by jklein11 »

GaylordTuring wrote: post #254

Would it be too much to ask for Hacker News to not promote products made in and benefiting evil regimes such as China and Russia? You wouldn’t allow The Nazipad 2000 to be showen here; what’s the difference?

Wouldn't it be better for the community to moderate this sort of thing? You can always downvote post. Or even better, you could engage in discourse on how this product is benefiting evil regimes. I'm not sure promoting censorship is the answer here.

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Post by pedalpete »

Buxato wrote: post #6
rich_sasha wrote: post #2

Phenomenal news. I’m hoping competition drives prices down. Remarkable 2 looks neat but so expensive. Now there’s choice.

Soon: https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/ Also I want to recommend this one: Onyx Boox Nova3 Not so wallet gardened, and with a modern Android (so you could use google maps, openstreet maps or whatever among many other things)

I hadn't see this. I've got a Boox Nova3, and though I like it in theory, the UX isn't great. That's the reason I'd consider the Huawei.

But also, how long until Amazon makes a kindle that lets me take notes both in the book I'm reading, but also as just a blank notebook....please please...

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Post by xibalba »

curiousgal wrote: post #244
ct0 wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thinking the same thing. how damaging to the brand that once I hear Huawei, I think of spyware.

If I had to choose between China and Big Tech spying on me (and I technically do) I would pick China any and every time honestly.

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Post by advisedwang »

GaylordTuring wrote: post #254

Would it be too much to ask for Hacker News to not promote products made in and benefiting evil regimes such as China and Russia? You wouldn’t allow The Nazipad 2000 to be showen here; what’s the difference?

A huge fraction of consumer electronics are made in China, so they shouldn't be listed here? iPhone is out of scope for HN?

Not to mention questions about who gets to decide...

Re: Huawei MatePad Paper – eInk Tablet

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Post by president »

curiousgal wrote: post #244
ct0 wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

thinking the same thing. how damaging to the brand that once I hear Huawei, I think of spyware.

If I had to choose between China and Big Tech spying on me (and I technically do) I would pick China any and every time honestly.

I disagree with you but I don't think the downvotes you're getting are justified. If you really do prefer Chinese spying, why so?
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