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Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by skoskie »

chrisan wrote: post #231
RubberShoes wrote: post #219

I have used 1pass for years. I think I bought my lifetime license sometime in 2014? I loved it and even advocated for our 2000+ company to adopt it back in 2018. I would say in the past 2-3 years it has slowly become an absolute nightmare. I do not recommend it to anyone anymore. They have somehow screwed up the very basic functionality of filling in passwords on any browser I try. They continue to shift features aro…

> They have somehow screwed up the very basic functionality of filling in passwords on any browser I try What browser/sites are you having issues with? I've only been using 1Password since the Lastpass changes last year or 2 (I forget) but havent run into a site I can't autofil. I actually found it works in places Lastpass used to let me down such as CapitalOne

USAA (bank) as of a few seconds ago.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by skoskie »

greplogic wrote: post #198
terabytest wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you share a little bit about what you'd want to use this for? (I'm part of the 1Password design team)

I know HN probably isn't representative of the population, but I imagine we skew heavily on the technical side of this and I would echo OP's suggestion. It would be very helpful for many developer and potentially other use cases as others have made a case for.

If they are targeting enterprise users you’d think they already know how it would be helpful.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by _joel »

RubberShoes wrote: post #219

I have used 1pass for years. I think I bought my lifetime license sometime in 2014? I loved it and even advocated for our 2000+ company to adopt it back in 2018. I would say in the past 2-3 years it has slowly become an absolute nightmare. I do not recommend it to anyone anymore. They have somehow screwed up the very basic functionality of filling in passwords on any browser I try. They continue to shift features aro…

My experience has been completely the opposite, works like a charm.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by TameAntelope »

Karunamon wrote: post #226
TameAntelope wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s funny about this comment is how detached from reality it is. If you round, approximately zero users of Electron apps know how to do what you’re talking about, and yet they continue to successfully use Electron apps across a variety of platforms. The fact that you have to finely manage your system’s memory is a you thing, not an Electron thing. The two are entirely orthogonal. Memory is not a precious resource,…

Was it really necessary to have the rude and condescending attitude? While it served the point of illustrating the toxic behavior I took issue with of those who claim memory management is Fine(tm), I don't think it was warranted here. I only care about managing my memory because the consequences of running out of free memory are severe. Linux as shipped by mainstream distros is quite happy to start filling swap (with…

On each and every point your view is only true in very isolated and niche situations, while simultaneously begging the question that you’ve run out of memory in the first place.

Linux is not good for desktop environments for exactly the reasons you outline here (and many more). It’s not Electron’s fault you’ve used the wrong tool for your desktop OS.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by tksb »

varenc wrote: post #222
DonHopkins wrote: post #139

A huge problematic deficiency of 1Password is that it lacks literal multi-line text field types. The items in its database let you define custom fields for them, but there is no literal multi line text field. There's a "File" type, but you can't simply define fields with multi-line text values. However, every item has exactly one built-in "notes" field, but that's actually styled markdown text. And you only get one.…

As one datapoint: I’ve used 1P for 11+ years, have over 1200 items in it, and I’ve literally never lamented the lack of multiline fields.

While I agree about the specific ask for multiline support (and the decade plus hourly usage of 1p), it's abundantly clear that things are slipping with regards to the core product. For awhile there were no public links to any downloadable desktop apps for macOS while they pushed web + subs + and the MAS version.

These days I'm just delighted when 1password doesn't open a totally different browser when invoked from the active one.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by vngzs »

rickosborne wrote: post #249
vngzs wrote: post #224

I think this is a bad idea for users. I don't think SSH keys are things you should share across machines in a password manager. If you have two devices, then you should have two keys (though this is the subject of some debate; see [0]). Using the 1Password SSH agent encourages people to have "one" SSH key across devices, which means that any leaks will disproportionately impact them. It's unfortunate, because there i…

> I don't think SSH keys are things you should share across machines in a password manager. While I agree with the first half of your statement (don't share SSH keys), I cannot agree with the second (don't put SSH keys in a password manager). For my home use of 1Password, I absolutely want to keep backups of my SSH keys in 1Password. Because, in general, there's exactly 1 SSH key which can get into my cloud instances…

I'll concede that it's not nearly as crazy to share keys across devices for home use or low-risk things. I must admit I was speaking mostly from an enterprise perspective.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by soraminazuki »

RubberShoes wrote: post #219

I have used 1pass for years. I think I bought my lifetime license sometime in 2014? I loved it and even advocated for our 2000+ company to adopt it back in 2018. I would say in the past 2-3 years it has slowly become an absolute nightmare. I do not recommend it to anyone anymore. They have somehow screwed up the very basic functionality of filling in passwords on any browser I try. They continue to shift features aro…

> They continue to shift features around, break existing workflows, and even the basic tasks I rely on dozens of times a day seems to change with any significant release.

That shouldn't be a matter of opinion, yet it doesn't match my experience at all. 1Password 7's UI and workflow did not undergo a dramatic change in the past 2-3 years. Not even once. The UI and controls looks and feels the same as ever as it did back in 2018. I'm sure the periodic updates brought new features here and there, but none of those are even remotely close to being a disruptive change.

> If the webpage attached to the original 'save login' prompt is not the one you are on - the auto popup underneath the login field has nothing to show

That's a legitimate security measure. It's making sure that it's autofilling for the right domain. If you want working autofill, you just need to make sure that your password is associated with the right domain.

> I have to go to the Desktop app, search, find, and copy. My team regularly wastes minutes on this each day.

You only need to make an edit once to associate your password with the right domain. But if you can't be bothered, searching and copying the password is a "Cmd + \" away. It takes less than a second.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by TameAntelope »

otterley wrote: post #210
TameAntelope wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False choice; you have memory for both Electron apps and your kernel for disk caching. Besides, with SSDs and NVMe your experience loading data from disk is plenty fast. Again, this is the future; I/O isn’t the bottleneck it once was.

Just because you haven't personally experienced this problem doesn't mean that many others have not. The experience of others is just as valuable as your personal experience, and to denigrate the experiences of others demonstrates a lack of empathy and understanding. Not everyone has an SSD, and not everyone has more than 8GB memory in their laptops. Many laptop manufacturers (including Apple) continue to sell lower-…

My point is that, in 2022, the overwhelming majority of people do have the necessary resources required to run Electron apps on their laptops and desktops.

My view is backed up by the fact that people do exactly this, with great success. The complaint about memory is not reflective of the typical user experience.

Re: 1Password for SSH and Git (Beta)

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Post by 1123581321 »

RubberShoes wrote: post #238
aniforprez wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the webpage attached to the original 'save login' prompt is not the one you are on - the auto popup underneath the login field has nothing to show and I cannot manually find and enter it Is it the same URL as what was saved in the login? If not, then this is intended behaviour to stop phishing attacks and has saved my butt several times. If the autofill doesn't work, either the website has changed the base URL, I'v…

To both your points - a great example is right here on HN. If I right click and go to 1pass, I no longer can open any mini window. I instead am given the option of Lock, Save Login, Help, or Hide on this page. Completely breaks my 5+ years of muscle memory to right click on a field and find what I need. Now if I open the browser extension in the top right, my Favorites are not my favorites...they're the favorites of…

That is interesting. When I read your initial comment, I was completely bewildered because the software keeps getting better and more reliable and the new browser extension saves me lots of time. It wouldn't have occurred to me to use that right-click menu for anything, though, and I can see how it might have done something useful in the past for you. Different experiences that happen to share a product name!
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