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We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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When I see per month or per day stats I get suspicious. Let's say a month has 30 days -- 5 million views a months is 166,666k per day, 6944 per hour, 116 per minute, and ~1.92 per second. 1.92 qps. Of course it's not expensive, it's a tiny amount of traffic!

I know, but it is impressive that they are doing it for $400.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Is there a decentralized solution you would recommend that’s better?

I appreciate you are replying to someone, but i feel like this doesn't quite make sense. You're running a website. Why would your web server be decentralized? HTTP is a client/server protocol after all.

Because caching is part of the HTTP spec. If content doesn't change on every request, you cache it with a timeout. If users are looking at your site from around the world, you want the cache to exist as close to them as possible. This is the job of the CDN. In Cloudflare's case, they sit between your web server and the user and can be that HTTP cache. If your site is popular, you might still have multiple versions of it across regions.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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I often wonder why so many companies seem to spend tens of thousands of dollars per month on AWS services for their hosting. If most web apps nowadays are just CRUD apps, then why would you need to spend more than €300/month on hosting? All you'd need is data and the website itself, right? I'm currently clicking through various European hosting services and they seem to offer great dedicated servers at good prices. I…

> Is it because everyone is writing their stuff on node.js, putting 500kb of JS in every web page they serve, putting Docker everywhere when a chroot would suffice

Complexity inflates HN readers CVs and keeps them employed.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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I often wonder why so many companies seem to spend tens of thousands of dollars per month on AWS services for their hosting. If most web apps nowadays are just CRUD apps, then why would you need to spend more than €300/month on hosting? All you'd need is data and the website itself, right? I'm currently clicking through various European hosting services and they seem to offer great dedicated servers at good prices. I…

> Is it because everyone is writing their stuff on node.js, putting 500kb of JS in every web page they serve, putting Docker everywhere when a chroot would suffice, microservices, Kubernetes, or hell even writing SAPs when we don't need them? My response may come off as rude, but that's not the intention. From the above quote you've vastly over simplified all but the most simplistic environments. Someone could run al…

> Docker does not have much overhead over chroot with a large drop in security/isolation

Docker adds plenty of attack surface that could easily be avoided by using any sandbox or a systemd unit file.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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> I was running www.Photopea.com with 10M page views a month for $40 a year. > Now, I upgraded to $60 a month. I never used any CDN. Why not go back to the $40/month plan and spend $20/month on Cloudflare Pro? I was able to load photopea.com in about 5000ms, uncached. That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. A CDN would cut that load time massively, and it…

> That's not terrible, but it was slow enough that I wondered for a few seconds if the site was broken. So what? Unless your website is offering some superficial junk that can easily be found elsewhere, you’re not going to lose a user. For something like photopea, there aren’t sub-second alternatives out there.

There's plenty of other image editing software.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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> This website blog.polyhaven.com/how-we-handle-80tb-and-5m-page-views-a-month-for-under-400/ is currently offline. Cloudflare's Always Online™ shows a snapshot of this web page from the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. To check for the live version, click Refresh. hm

Yep, I got that too. Absolutely beautiful.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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You can consider Affinity Photo

All of the Affinity products are top notch. I wanted a simple vector tool and ended up liking Affinity Designer so much I picked up a course to learn it more in-depth. The best part is their pricing model doesn't suck, so I'm happy to pay for their wares.

Which course did you take?

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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Honestly you can go very far with unmettered data plans. We consume 2GB/S, maxed out, which ends up being 5184TB a month. We have millions on users a day, all on a streaming video platform. It cost less than $2K/Month. The cloud is crazy expensive. Private servers are beasts, and they are cheap. Of course, for this price, you don't have redundancy and horizontal scaling. You also don't have to maintain and debug a sy…

Thanks! Exactly that! I always tell that customers and their response is: -But google/facebook/amazon... -But uptime needs to be 99.999 -But everyone uses cloud Most businesses are not a trading-market, have less then 100 peoples (aka you are probably not another amazon), and no bonus using a cloud/kubernetes etc. But it's the same old story, in the 00's i used the ~same arguments against buying OracleDB ;)

Get two servers, stick them in different cities. $4k a month and you have resilience. $6k a month and you have resilience and double your throughout.

Some stuff makes sense to put on iaas, dns often does for example.

Re: We handle 80TB and 5M page views a month for under $400

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> This website blog.polyhaven.com/how-we-handle-80tb-and-5m-page-views-a-month-for-under-400/ is currently offline. Cloudflare's Always Online™ shows a snapshot of this web page from the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. To check for the live version, click Refresh. hm

The blog's down, but polyhaven.com isn't. Presumably the blog isn't as important as the core service and thus isn't hosted on the same infrastructure
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