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Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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Re: Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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Breathtaking amount of ignorance in these comments. EI has never and will never cover voluntarily leaving a position. Don't want to meet basic sanitary requirements? You're free to leave.

Please don’t smoke then, as second hand smoke affects us not addicted to nicotine, when you are standing outside of a shop and I have to walk by past you

Re: Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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And should people who crash in cars without wearing their seatbelt not get any government benefits from their injuries?

Personally, I don’t think so, but I do think it’s worth asking the question and exploring the space a little bit. There is a certain hypocrisy to refusing to accept safety measures from the government while expecting emergency treatment from the same people when not abiding by the safety measures causes predictable and avoidable harm. There are cases where people are injured while accidentally not having a seatbelt o…

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Re: Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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so tiring to see vaccinated people not understanding the science and the fact that they transmit the virus just as well. low information comments.

> just as well citation needed for the full cycle: healthy -> contracted -> transmitted My current understanding is that at least the first step is hindered. See e.g. https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiOTAzYzY0NjktMWYwNC0... shows approximately 4.5x reduction of the chances to contract (and therefore to spread further).

you will have to explain how high vaccination countries suddenly get huge outbreaks of infections.

Re: Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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You're off by a factor of 10: 800,000/330,000,000 ≈ 0.24%. 2% would be 2×3.3e6 = 6.6e6.

Thanks for correcting me! I’ve retracted my statement.

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Do you mean vaccination isn’t effective in your circle or as a population level? Or do you mean a different definition of effective? The study I linked to shows there is at least an effect.

As a population they don’t work anymore. They need to produce an omicron-targeted vaccine. This current vaccine simply doesn’t work because it’s targets the wrong spike protein and it shows.

Can you define “don’t work”? The study I linked to shows some effect, even in omicron. I’m kind of confused.

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Vaccines reduce spread because of lower viral load. Also reduces severity. Antivaxxers can be execrated for all I care - dumbest way to enforce your freedom

> Vaccines reduce spread because of lower viral load. Also reduces severity. And yet, case counts have never been higher than now, a year into vaccines and infections. Ah, but Omicron you may say. Well doesn’t that imply that the vaccine isn’t terribly effective against that strain? Yet the answer seem to be “just keep getting more injections of the same vaccine formulation.” Perhaps one or more of our fundamental as…

> maybe PCR tests cranked to an absurd number of cycles

c'mon, you're at least a year behind the conspiracy theory state of the art, we're on vaccine infertility now.

Re: Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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> dramatically reduces the hospitalization rate When administered to the at risk population. When required for young, hospitalization system impact would be marginal.

Not correct. Here is the official source: https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2... Please cite your sources.

Your link does not address age-specific hospitalization effects of vaccination. As a result, it is non-responsive to the GP's position. If you posted the wrong link and meant to post one that addresses GP's point of view, would you mind fixing the link? On the other hand, on the off chance it was intentional, please try to engage with more honesty and more in good faith.

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Almost as if reducing mortality/hospitalization is an irrelevant metric to you. Almost as if an abstract social construct as “rights” is more important to you than actual health.

You seem to misunderstand the entire reason the U.S. was created. Don't like it, leave. Seriously.

You seem to misunderstand the entire reason humans form societies.

Strength in numbers. Economies of scale. Division of labour.

The collective well-being of individuals.

If you don’t like all the social perks and safety nets you are enjoying - go be a hermit.

Re: Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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I don't understand, if the vaccines work then why the issue? However the vaccines don't stop you catching or spreading the virus, so why is this banning of the unvaccinated a thing? Very odd.

Big American corporations have often made their money through subsidies. Enforcing everyone to take the jabs increases those subsidies (this enforcement is persistent in all countries submissive to USA). That's what makes sense. However, don't assert altruism because there isn't any. The 'save lives' campaign is just a coating to make things easy for the general public to swallow.

yes, and the anti-vaxx crowd is funded by Big Hospital, which wants more people in the ICU so they can rake in those sweet sweet intubation $s.

Re: Unvaccinated workers who lose jobs ineligible for unemployment benefits (Canada)

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> dramatically reduces the hospitalization rate When administered to the at risk population. When required for young, hospitalization system impact would be marginal.

Not correct. Here is the official source: https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2... Please cite your sources.

That is all people lumped together. Like I said remove "at-risk".
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