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My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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I don’t want to dismiss your question, but to be honest I don’t know how to answer it. Maybe if everyone did it new arbitrage opportunities would arise so that it would become more lucrative to move somewhere else where there is a demand for services that nobody is doing anymore? But I am not an economist so I am not interested in reading 50 pedantic comments about how my previous sentence is inaccurate. I do not con…

What...? You said: > rather than simply admitting that they willingly chose a different path in life, but they could have chased my same opportunities with largely the same financial outcome. But then you also say > I do not concern myself with non-practical (in my opinion) matters The "concern" is your own advice.

I find your comment incredibly pedantic (just my opinion, no offense).

In my opinion, a practical matter is a single person (specifically, one of my peers in my home country complaining about my compensation without taking any action) deciding to make sacrifices to immigrate to the US.

A non-practical matter is worrying about everyone in my home country deciding to do the same.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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> Disclaimer: I acknowledge that I’ve been very privileged, especially in the educational opportunities I’ve had. This might sound reasonable from a US-centric perspective, but to me it reads like utter nonsense. The main privilege here is access to the US labor market and tax policy. There are no stories like this one where I live (in Sweden). Absolutely none.

> There are no stories like this one where I live (in Sweden). Absolutely none. Swedish tax rates on income makes this two to three times as difficult (approaches 60% plus 30% social paid by the employer this includes RSUs as well, plus 25% VAT) but it’s nonsense to claim this doesn’t happen. I am Swedish and have made significantly more in tech than the author. So has many of my friends. With that said, the only rea…

> I am Swedish and have made significantly more in tech than the author. So has many of my friends.

If you're comfortable with sharing, was it through a company exit or IPO?

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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What an absolute joke. The United States has terrible class mobility compared to the Netherlands or Germany for example. You don’t have anything to support what you said other than a skewed perspective created by American centric media. Edit: I guess the down voters here hate facts. The US scores lower on social mobility than the majority of European countries https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Social_Mobility_In…

Given my experience in NL, I would disagree. I see a very clear class divide here, which is just mostly ignored by the middle/upper classes and government. Most of the population spend the majority of their income on rent, commuting, and essentials. Students also have lots of debt over the past decade (15k on average). Owning a car is expensive, but so is public transport (esp. for a family). Renting is expensive, bu…

> Most of the population spend the majority of their income on rent, commuting, and essentials. Students also have lots of debt over the past decade (15k on average). Owning a car is expensive, but so is public transport (esp. for a family). Renting is expensive, but so is buying a house.

> Income tax brackets range from ~40-50%, while corporate and dividend taxes are minimal - 15-20%. VAT is regressive and applies on almost all goods incl. groceries, ranging from 5-21%. There is no capital gains taxes, so this obviously benefits the economically active upper/elite classes who have assets/savings to invest - while middle class families do not own much at all.

I hate to tell you, but the US practically invented all those issues. Average Americans pay a far larger percentage of their income in taxes than the wealthiest Americans or corporations do. You say VAT, we say "sales tax," and, yes, it's still just as regressive. Rent, student loans, etc.... yeah, that's all bad here, too.

https://smartasset.com/data-studies/income-needed-to-pay-ren...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/09/us-student-l...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/23/americas-richest-400-familie...

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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I do not understand why articles like these consistently score poorly on HN? Of course it’s all based on luck, but that doesn’t make it an uninteresting read. I admire the diligence of the author, and how well they played the lucky cards they were given. I am frequently in awe when reading technical articles on HN, with people advancing the state of the art in some technology. Those people also are incredibly lucky,…

My guess is some of the push back is because these kinds of articles seem tantalizingly prescriptive yet often bake in assumptions or choices that are unattainable for most.

Things like be born smart enough to land 6 figure job (or high 5 figures 20yo), be born into the middle/upper class, don't have extended family dependencies, don't have kids, don't have an SO or find one willing accept all the constraints, accept living in modest accomodations for the duration, or that now is roughly the same as when they started.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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Here's 2 questions for the "FIRE" crowd. 1) To stop working when you hit a certain number seems to me to be falling into the faulty logic illustrated in Freakonomics -- when a taxi driver works every day towards a certain $ figure, he suffers on crappy days (keeps on driving to little benefit) when fares are just not coming, and cuts off his earnings on great days where business is pouring in like crazy. Instead, you…

I have so many hobbies I could occupy (happily) maybe 10 lifetimes before getting remotely bored. Why spend the only one I have "working" for others?

As a software engineer with two kids and a wife with a more stressful job than mine, I have no hobbies anymore. I don't even work crazy hours.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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And with no kids.

How much should one expect kids to cost? Is an extra $1k in expenses a reasonable estimate?

It's not that kids cost a lot (though they might). I think it's because kids take a lot of time and energy.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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Nobody said it was "his fault" and that is obviously not the point of the acknowledgement starting the post.

So you agree he shouldn’t feel guilty.

Sure, but thinking privilege is equatable to guilt is missing the point.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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In the UK, the stronger drag on wealth accumulation for the poor is the absurd taxation on the middle incomes (50K+), especially given the very low level of service of public schools, healthcare system, childcare, etc…

Not making a judgement call on which is better (its all trade offs), but this is what Americans don’t get - all those social benefits have a cost and a good portion falls on the middle to upper middle class. I think a lot of Americans envision finding a European style social safety net by only taxing billionaires.

I think the UK managed to strike the worst possible compromise between the Europeans and the Americans. The NHS provides some basic service, but if you want a French or Italian style healthcare, you’ll end up spending thousands of pounds per year, assuming you are relatively healthy. Childcare is nonexistent, nurseries cost in the order of 1500£ per month per child. State schools are so bad that it’s normal to send your child to a private school. Unemployment benefits are offensive.

All this while everybody with a professional job faces a 40% marginal tax rate (plus NI).

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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The biggest expense is college, at least in the U.S. If you retire before they apply, you may want to be conservative and set aside the cost of the most expensive college. MIT is $77k/year [1]. For two kids, that's $616k. And it increases faster than inflation, estimate 6%/yr. If you have enough money in the bank that you're financially independent, they won't qualify for need based aid, you'll have to pay the sticke…

Not going to lie, but Americans paying 100% of their kids college is kinda weird as an immigrant. My kid can take out loans and sure I’ll help, but hell no I’m not bank rolling multiple kids at full private school tuition. At least where I grew up a solid public school college was not an impediment to a good career. I’ve notice Americans tend to hyper-optimize - I love it when parents tell me they bought in Palo Alto…

“ Americans paying 100% of their kids college is kinda”. As a non immigrant it’s weird to me too.

There are a class of parents who obsess about “the best”. Best schools, best tutors, best nutrition, best ‘experiences’, best neighborhood. It’s a hedonistic treadmill in the making.

Re: My Path to Financial Independence as a Software Engineer

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What...? You said: > rather than simply admitting that they willingly chose a different path in life, but they could have chased my same opportunities with largely the same financial outcome. But then you also say > I do not concern myself with non-practical (in my opinion) matters The "concern" is your own advice.

I find your comment incredibly pedantic (just my opinion, no offense). In my opinion, a practical matter is a single person (specifically, one of my peers in my home country complaining about my compensation without taking any action) deciding to make sacrifices to immigrate to the US. A non-practical matter is worrying about everyone in my home country deciding to do the same.

I don't see what's pedantic about it.

Do you believe someone who were to try to take the same path as you could have the same financial outcome today?

How would it change if they couldn't get to the USA?

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