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Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by landryraccoon »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #244
giaour wrote: post #242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a really bleak way to look at digital devices and their role in the world. Should you only write things you want the world to read on a computer, and for everything else, just use pen and paper?

It is bleak but it's the reality that we have, not the reality we wish that we had.

Hackernews is full of people with the skill and position to actually influence what decisions the tech world makes.

It's much less forgivable for engineers and managers that work at Google, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, etc to be cynical and say "yeah Tech is evil what can you do" compared to the average person, and this site is full of people who are in those positions.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by q1w2 »

aulin wrote: post #240
VortexDream wrote: post #4

I'm sick of people, so I'm not going to read the inevitable comments that are going to come. Look, face it, some people like taking nude photos of themselves and they like sharing them with their partners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It's not their fault if something like this happens. People should be able to feel secure in the tech that they use, in the companies that they entrust their information…

Amazing how most of the replies of your comment and the other comments too are still victim blaming, not for taking or sharing the nudes but for being so naive to send a phone unwiped. There's no excuse for violating and exposing someone's private life like this, being tech unsavvy (or you know, not being able to wipe a dead phone) is absolutely not an excuse to shift the blame to the victim. We get it you're good, y…

This feels like a limitation of our ability to have constructive conversations online.

Someone can be less than perfect and that can cause them to be victimized.

We should be able to talk about both aspects of this story, perhaps independently.

Some people want to discuss how the offender should be punished, and other people want to discuss how we can behave to prevent being victimized ourselves.

I don't think it's valid to argue that people discussing how to prevent victimization, are somehow "victim blaming".

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by clort »

TrueGeek wrote: post #223
exabrial wrote: post #215

Even worse: Never lend your google phones to friends. If they hard reset the phone before handing it back to you, Google will refuse to reactivate them. I exhausted every option with their support and am left with a $800 brick.

Your friend factory reset the phone and put their own password on it? To be fair to Google, they should refuse - if they agreed to wipe someone else's account that would be a HUGE breach of protocol based just on your word. What would keep people from selling used phones and then calling Google to deactivate them? Or just calling Google and deactivating random phones? If your "friend" refuses to log out and re-reset…

s/friend/ex-friend/g

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by dahfizz »

q1w2 wrote: post #252
aulin wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazing how most of the replies of your comment and the other comments too are still victim blaming, not for taking or sharing the nudes but for being so naive to send a phone unwiped. There's no excuse for violating and exposing someone's private life like this, being tech unsavvy (or you know, not being able to wipe a dead phone) is absolutely not an excuse to shift the blame to the victim. We get it you're good, y…

This feels like a limitation of our ability to have constructive conversations online. Someone can be less than perfect and that can cause them to be victimized. We should be able to talk about both aspects of this story, perhaps independently. Some people want to discuss how the offender should be punished, and other people want to discuss how we can behave to prevent being victimized ourselves. I don't think it's v…

Absolutely.

"They deserved it for sending in an unwiped phone" is victim blaming.

"If you need to send in your phone, you can do X and Y to protect yourself" is absolutely NOT victim blaming.

I cannot wrap my mind around why people would have a problem with the second statement.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by kelnos »

dahart wrote: post #144
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do we tend to treat people like they’re asking for it when their nudes get compromised? Because nudity is akin to sex and sexual ways, which are taboo in many societies. Upstanding citizens do not have nudes, in general. Especially women or nudes hinting at same-sex romance. It isn't right, but it is . Edit: I'm not saying I agree with this. But it doesn't take much to see folks putting others down for nudity. YM…

> Upstanding citizens do not have nudes, in general. What makes you sure about this? What evidence do you have?

I don't think the parent was asserting that this is true, just that this is the general public sentiment in many societies (which I'd agree with, unfortunately).

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by Bud »

sulam wrote: post #140
Bud wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You absolutely do have things compatible with iOS. You probably just don't know it yet. So the advice, is, try iOS. Stop rewarding Google for stealing iOS, creating Android, and then loosing this kind of bullshit on the world.

Android was created in 2003. Google bought the company in 2005. The first iPhone was released in 2007.

Are you being misleading on purpose, or was it just an accident?

The first phone to run on Android debuted from Google in 2008 and was universally recognized as a hilariously obvious copy of iOS and everything about the iPhone.

The early internal versions of Android bore absolutely no resemblance to what was finally released in 2008. There wasn't even a touchscreen at all, and they had a physical QWERTY Blackberry-esque keyboard. They magically changed after the iPhone was released. This is all quite well-documented.

https://slate.com/technology/2008/11/what-the-google-phone-s...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)

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Post by KptMarchewa »

dolni wrote: post #245
slantyyz wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I feel like removable SD card is a tech person solution but... As an older person, I find this observation very interesting. Today, I would consider people in general to be much more technically knowledgeable compared to people 20+ years ago. And yet, 20 years ago, removable storage was quite common, and probably expected of most devices.

I wouldn't say that. I had an 11 year old ask me what "right-click" was the other day. Yes, it sounds insane and it absolutely is. I blame the public school system. They know only what they're exposed to, and no more. Most devices don't have SD cards these days.

Why didn't you expose them to that?

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Post by kelnos »

maccolgan wrote: post #218
notreallyserio wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how broken the phone was, but it's possible for a phone to be so damaged that you can't wipe it's contents prior to sending it in for service. I love car analogies (who doesn't), I think this is more like your car being on fire and asking a firefighter to put it out, while hoping they won't find and share any documents they find in the back seat.

So what do you do when your car is on fire but there's also nude photos in the back seat? Asking genuinely, don't know what would be the best thing to do...

Wait to call the fire department until you're sure the photos have burned.

(No, I'm not serious; this is terrible advice!)

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Post by nickff »

wpietri wrote: post #185
VortexDream wrote: post #4

I'm sick of people, so I'm not going to read the inevitable comments that are going to come. Look, face it, some people like taking nude photos of themselves and they like sharing them with their partners. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. It's not their fault if something like this happens. People should be able to feel secure in the tech that they use, in the companies that they entrust their information…

Thanks for posting this. I get why people do the victim-blaming thing; it lets them feel smart and superior, two feelings I have been known to enjoy. But it's a fundamentally bad way to approach analyzing safety issues. For those who really want to dig in on the topic, I strongly recommend Dekker's "A Field Guide to Understanding 'Human Error'": https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q8XCSFI/ref=dbs_a_def_r... It's nom…

It's not just about feeling smart and superior, it also helps them feel invulnerable. People victim-blame smokers who get lung cancer because they don't want to think about the chance they might get it too.

Re: Pixel sent to Google for replacement. They used it to post wife's nudes online

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Post by echelon »

dekhn wrote: post #133

Flagged because the original post and its details were deleted. There's just a pointless conversation about whether you should contact a lawyer, which is literally the only thing this person should have done.

I understand your take, but I would rather see the HN community's take on it rather than Reddit's. There are Google and Apple insiders, actual lawyers, repair techs, and more here. Even tangential threads can be interesting.
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