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Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

#251

The author forgot making rounded corners using images! I kind of miss the creativity of old web development, especially before responsive web design. There was so much more variation and most sites didn't look like the default bootstrap template. But there were a lot of bad things about this era, particularly non standard browsers

Also rounded corners using a 3x3 table and 8 images (4 for corners, 4 for the sides scaled to 100%) were fully responsive.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

#252

This doesn't even get into the really good stuff like webrings. In the days before Google and SEO, you needed to be part of some "webring" of related sites if you wanted someone to find your page.

They get a brief mention:

> [88x31 pixel buttons] told the tale of all the battles the individual had fought in order to get to where they were today. In other words, which editor (FrontPage ‘98, obviously), which web server (GeoCities, you moron), and which web ring you were a part of (whichever listed your site highest, which was none of them).

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

#254

The author forgot making rounded corners using images! I kind of miss the creativity of old web development, especially before responsive web design. There was so much more variation and most sites didn't look like the default bootstrap template. But there were a lot of bad things about this era, particularly non standard browsers

I remember at one point I had an animated imagemap as my main navigation....

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

#255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh yeah, i think every one did - but they certainly werent used in "semantically correct containers".

Even HN, this very website, still uses spacer gifs. Sadly.

Spacer GIFs which are resized for narrow screens (300-750px) using CSS depending on the tag's width attribute. That's not a technique I've seen before:

> img[src='s.gif'][width='40'] {width: 12px;}

(from https://news.ycombinator.com/news.css)

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

#256

Less we forget about What an amazing time. Felt like the wild west back then.

My contrarian take for the day: I liked frames. It was a nice built-in way to provide consistent site-level navigation and context when your styling options were otherwise pretty limited. The only problem was when it broke navigation outside the site, which was a pretty bad design decision and took a lot of self-discipline to prevent.

I'm on the fence about frames. From one side, it annoyingly broke navigation, opening in new tab, etc. But on the other hand it allowed to open just the content itself without navigation elements, allowing for eg. easy printing.

(and navigation could be fixed by browsers, maybe by encoding currently active frame targets into url after #)

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

#257
post #51

It was x.gif, 1x1.gif was a waste of two bytes which was considerable savings on those insane table layouts.

Not sure about the browsers of that era, but modern browsers will happily display ".gif" (without a file name) or even "1" (without the .gif extension).

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

#258

As a backend developer - I literally still use   when I’m forced to touch something on the front end

Genuine question: what's the problem with  ?

Nothing wrong with using it to actually prevent word breaks (i.e. "Hacker News"). It's just not the best method to position things on the page.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

#259

My first software dev job was in the 90's writing PHP for a mom and pop ISP that was trying to get into app development. It was originally supposed to be Perl, the job interview was something like: Me: demos CRUD app for keeping track of my record collection, hosted on a free site Owner: You wrote this? Me: Yeah. Owner: This is in Perl? Me: Yeah. So I got hired. The day I got there, he told me they were going to use…

At my first webdev job (1998) I built websites for seafood companies. Microsoft FrontPage was the tool my boss handed me. I was appalled at the HTML it was producing, and succeeded in convincing him to let me use Dreamweaver instead; for a 20th century WYSIWYG editor, it was pretty good.

Re: Only 90s web developers remember this (2014)

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post #160

I'll always have a fond memory of window.status, which still exists but doesn't do anything on the majority of browsers anymore as they don't have status bars to modify the text of. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Window/stat...

I still remember the day I learned how to animate text in the status bar. I felt like being a wizard!
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