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Post by beckman466 »

kodah wrote: post #248
beckman466 wrote: post #245

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thank you friend for sharing your experiences and stories. > I've noticed relying on my friends to vent just sours relationships. As much as people gloat about support systems, it's mainly a farce. People will only tolerate hearing so much of your internal dissonance, concerns, and stressors. i resonate with this a lot. have you heard of the author Francis Weller? “At the core of this grief is our longing to belong.…

That quote really resonated with me, I appreciate you sharing it. I think it's something I'll stock away and read from time to time. I don't think I've ever seen someone so eloquently paint the picture of the world I see.

i'm glad to hear it. that whole book is full of gems. sometimes when i want to find a quote by Weller in my notes i now go to this quote page instead, because it has many of them: https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/6154098.Francis_Well...

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Post by vettedvat »

User23 wrote: post #210
vettedvat wrote: post #200

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False, we expect people to be depressed when depressing things happen, this is normal and called "situational depression," you've confused it with a disorder. Depression has been a problem in Ethiopia for much longer than the conflict in Tigray, despite the abundance of "community, shared culture, shared religion." Looks like it takes more than that...

> "community, shared culture, shared religion." I don't pretend to be an expert on Ethiopia, but I was under the impression that it's a multi-ethnic state of different tribes who don't necessarily share those things with each other.

Christians actually have a larger majority in Ethiopia than in the US. Looks like it takes more than "community, shared culture, shared religion." Oops!

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

People need to know that if you have Post SSRI sexual dysfunction, your body usually learns to work around it.

Went I started SSRI's I didn't orgasm for 3 months, but learned how again. Also if you tell your doctor about the sexual dysfunction they will prescribe you Viagra, which I did not need but absolutely love using and overall sex + Viagra is way more fun than before I started SSRI's.

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Post by vettedvat »

dang wrote: post #247
vettedvat wrote: post #158

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Your study says that some of 3715 mensa members were depressed. Not that "many psychiatrists, by virtue of their education, are part of a class of people who are themselves more prone to depression and anxiety." So yeah, blind speculation. > When it comes to 'dysthymia'. The only reason we find it to be a disease is that we expect people to be happy all the time. Completely wrong, again. You can experience situationa…

I've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html It's particularly important not to be an asshole when you're arguing for a position which is actually true. Doing that discredits the truth, and that hurts everyone. (I don't know if what you're arguing here i…

The parent seeks to discredit the legitimacy of all mental disease, based on a study of a handful of Mensa members from 2016. Does that "discredit the truth?"

Their original comment was flagged and removed. Sorry, who's the "asshole" again?

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Post by dang »

vettedvat wrote: post #254
dang wrote: post #247

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I've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines. Please don't create accounts to do that with; it will eventually get your main account banned as well. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html It's particularly important not to be an asshole when you're arguing for a position which is actually true. Doing that discredits the truth, and that hurts everyone. (I don't know if what you're arguing here i…

The parent seeks to discredit the legitimacy of all mental disease , based on a study of a handful of Mensa members from 2016. Does that "discredit the truth?" Their original comment was flagged and removed. Sorry, who's the "asshole" again?

That's irrelevant to whether you broke the site guidelines. They apply regardless of how bad another comment is or you feel it is.

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Post by 65a »

ralusek wrote: post #18
wayoutthere wrote: post #9

Ugh. Yes. Not meaning to be crude here and I’m incredibly sympathetic to the men I date, but as a woman in her late 30s it’s hard to find a man my age who doesn’t have problems getting / keeping it up. Most of them link back to antidepressant use. What about modern society drives the need for such widespread use of antidepressants? Is that something we should be willing to give up? It hasn’t always been this way, has…

Trouble in that department is also heavily impacted by men just generally being more sedentary, having poorer diets, and due to those reasons and more, having lower testosterone. Also, consuming pornography in much greater amounts than previously available to people is known to cause serious problems here.

> is known to cause serious problems here

[citation needed]

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Post by cma »

ciphol wrote: post #243
cma wrote: post #222

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> Alexander has his issues, but this is an area where he's actually an expert and his approach to the topic helped me a lot. He has a major conflict on this topic in particular though. Livejournal-era Scott (squid314) expressed eugenicist views on the mentally ill (paying schizophrenics to get sterilized): https://www.twitter.com/ArsonAtDennys/status/136101934712109... So I would not trust his claimed views whatsoeve…

That comment is 9 years old and Scott is still a relatively young guy, so hopefully he has grown out of such ideas.

Mostly unrelated to SSRIs, there was an email leak that was much more recent where he also says his anti-reactionary FAQ was made with ulterior motives to promote the "human bio-diversity" head measuring stuff from neoractionism and just attack the feudalism parts or something along those lines:

https://twitter.com/ArsonAtDennys/status/1362153191102677001

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Post by cma »

ivraatiems wrote: post #228
cma wrote: post #222

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> Alexander has his issues, but this is an area where he's actually an expert and his approach to the topic helped me a lot. He has a major conflict on this topic in particular though. Livejournal-era Scott (squid314) expressed eugenicist views on the mentally ill (paying schizophrenics to get sterilized): https://www.twitter.com/ArsonAtDennys/status/136101934712109... So I would not trust his claimed views whatsoeve…

I absolutely won't defend his Livejournal comments or any of that other stuff. It's trash and he's wrong. But with regards to the SSRI article, Siskind says the libido effects are significant and that "[the effects] usually go away a few weeks to months after stopping the medication, but in rare cases they might linger for months or years, and there are a few people who say their sexual side effects never went away.…

Based on his prior views on sterilization it just taints the whole subject too much even if he agrees with a mainstream consensus or something. I just will exclude his analysis, especially since he has an additional history of admiting like pervasive ulterior motives in tons of his content (like the "anti" neoreactionary FAQ https://twitter.com/ArsonAtDennys/status/1362153191102677001)

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Post by staticman2 »

ivraatiems wrote: post #225
staticman2 wrote: post #205

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Talk therapy where I am pays 75 dollars for 50 minute session on my insurance. Someone who has been through med school would not typically lower themself to that rate, nor do I buy the idea that some insurers are inexplicably more generous and pay doctor rates for non doctor work. Remember, talk therapy does not require as much education, you do not need a phd or md to do it. An MD would not get doctor level payouts…

It's true an LISW or similar wouldn't make the same rated as a PhD or an MD... but between the same "tier" of education in the provider, rates are surprisingly more comparable. Insurers aren't more generous - they have negotiated rates. They're never paying 100% of what's charged. Some providers are better at negotiating, or have more leverage, than others.

You don't have to believe me when I say psychiatrists don't tend to do things not involving drugs, you can read this quora thread:

https://www.quora.com/Why-don-t-psychiatrists-do-talk-therap...

You've shared a belief that a patient will continue to see a psychiatrist when not being given drugs. Since psychiatrists don't tend to do talk therapy, I will reiterate I don't believe this is correct.

I'm sure there are exceptions- a wealthy person might find a Doctor Frasier Crane type Doctor to do talk therapy- but they would be paying out of pocket. I know the local Ivy League school only takes a special Ivy League insurance offered only to the Ivy league school's students and staff. The wealthy- and their Doctors- don't need to worry about the "rules" set by insurance companies.

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Post by cobertos »

notmymainlogin wrote: post #233
cobertos wrote: post #220

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Vortioxetine (Trintellix) is expensive as fuck, most insurance plans have it under multiple restrictions (step therapy (ST), prior auth (PA), others). They have a manufacturer discount card to take off $100 max but if your prescription benefits don't kick in until after you're deductible you will max out every year pretty quickly. I just paid $900 for a 3 month supply. But... Anecdotally, it does have less sexual sid…

Have you been on venlafaxine before? If so, how would you compare it to escitalopram, not in terms of sexual side effects but in terms of efficacy with anxiety.

Ah, I haven't been on venlafaxine before so I wouldn't be able to comment. Sorry. Only escitalopram and vortioxetine
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