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Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

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I beg to differ. The purpose of the company is what those in power of the company decide it to be. While in the absolute majority of cases it is profit, there _are_ exceptions. Most notable exception would be SpaceX, which has its sights set on Mars transportation, with profits mainly serving as the stepping stones.

lol. Must be fun having your tongue so far up Musk's ass.

Posting like this will get you banned on HN, regardless of how wrong other people are or you feel they are. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

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> He's deeply immoral, and continues to do what Facebook does for power and money. I don't seem him wielding power. Its not like he's managed to convince half the population of a country that they should really abstain from something for shits a giggles. I'd go further and say that facebook it's self has surprisingly little power to shape the opinions of its users. There are powerful actors that use facebook as a med…

> I don't seem him wielding power. Its not like he's managed to convince half the population of a country that they should really abstain from something for shits a giggles. I'd go further and say that facebook it's self has surprisingly little power to shape the opinions of its users. There are powerful actors that use facebook as a medium for broadcast, but not facebook it's self. Zuckerberg is meeting top politica…

> Zuckerberg is meeting top political leaders of his own country, and sometimes others, and negotiating with them, FB is basically treated like a country-sized negotiating entity.

Every large company does this. Zuckerberg was oddly transparent about it. Look how much apple, google, IBM, rayethon, boeing, amazon lobby and manipulate. Amazon managed to get states to out bid each other to effectively subsidise opening offices in their state.

> I'm really not making the comparison lightly, but I think Zuckerberg is on the same level.

You are comparing Zuckerberg to Franco, Gagdafi, Lukashenko, al-assad et al. They literally have locked people up, tortured them and had them killed, systematically. They killed thier opponents to omake sure they would no longer be a problem. All of this in the pursuit of total power. The comparison is farcical, bordering on the "everyone I don't like is Hitler" argument.

As I've pointed out, for someone who is supposedly amassing huge power, he sure is really shit at using it.

For him to be a dictator, in the digital world, he would need to be removing the competition. Firing anyone that opposes him, removing dissent. I don't see that in FB. I also don't see that on the platform. I can freely criticise zuckerberg and the company. High profile sports player have done this in the UK, and they are still on the platform.

> But do those things bother him? I don't think so, I imagine it's an absolute non-issue for him.

If they are a non issue, why the fuck are they spending literally billions trying to unfuck it? I mean they aren't doing it very well, but they are spending megabuck trying. If he was indifferent then he wouldn't bother.

For example CSAM, facebook and google outperform apple reporting that kind of offence at a rate of ~2000:1 Does apple not care about CSAM? is Cook a secret CSAM peddler? no ofcourse not.

tldr: your argument undermines how bad dictators are, and suggests you don't understand what its like to live in a country that actively represses its populace.

Re: Facebook chooses profits over people

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Anyway I saw Facebook when it started out and it was kind of nice to be able to chat to my mates around the world, however for me it was always just a junk thing to be a clown on, little did others or myself know it would impact the very cores of society. Instead of it being monitored and controlled like most other major impacts it was left to just snow ball into a massive situation we have today. Lol FFS to allow th…

Yeah, I understand. Early Facebook was a nice "keep in touch" platform - before likes and sharing. I think the reality is for-profit social networks will always be detrimental to society long term. You can add paywalls, but then you're only working with an exclusive minority. That probably won't work long term. I wonder if something run by the Wikimedia Foundation or an equivalent could work. Like a MyWiki.

Maybe like it could work where you get like here karma, but the Karma is more based on your content you submit which needs to be approved and audited, like a forum or peer review. The points allow you to connect with people but only connect with people that have the same value. IE a person with 100 points can connect with a person who has 100-150 but not someone with points above this. Below this you might also have an up and down cap to keep people in smaller community based circles and maybe limit this to like 400 people. It's an idea it's not perfect but maybe it could allow us to be better. Having a limit of 5000 lol how can you even have 5000 friends it's impossible. You can always follow these groups that part anyone can do you just can't interact with them with out being connected, or forming your own sub group which in doing this will spin up your own fan base and acceptance feeling. Again is not perfect
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