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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by krzyk »

JediWing wrote: post #121

The launch of this phone was utterly botched. There's a hilarious dissonance between the talk of SoC design, AI, computational photography and ambient computing and the inability to handle a website with a relatively simple purchase flow for a phone that, let's be real, probably has about 1/10 th of the interest and web traffic of the iPhone. From the moment the store website went live with these phones there were al…

People will never learn. You don't preorder Pixels, there are always better deals on Black Friday (literally in few weeks, just a week after Pixel start shipping).

Never take preorders, especially with Pixels. (learned that hard with Pixel 3).

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by nsonha »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

I think the end game is no one should care about this sort of thing, so let the people who still care have it.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by GuB-42 »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

To be honest, I couldn't get to the end of the page, and not because of the lack of white males.

Scrolling is broken, images bounce all over the place, it is slow, laggy, how can Google make such a terrible page? I am using an older phone, it is not a beast, but most of the web works fine, maybe it is a way for Google to tell me I should upgrade to their new phone.

There seem to be a general trend of hijacking the scrollbar in product presentation pages, I don't know why but Google is particularly terrible at that. Also, it doesn't seem to get the idea that you may want to use a language that is not the language of the country your connection originates from. For example your URL explicitly specifies English but I get the French page because I am in France.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by simonh »

flutas wrote: post #46
marcellus23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

> their intent is to scan cloud photos corrected: their intent is to scan all photos in your photo library, on your device, including images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages, if you have iCloud Photo enabled.

They do not have the ability to scan photos stored on your phone that are not uploaded to iCloud. The scan is only implemented in the iCloud photos upload system.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by rpmisms »

seneca wrote: post #230
eklavya wrote: post #177

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Even though I agree with your sentiment, you would be surprised just how many ads in India include foreigners (all white) exclusively, it’s fucking ridiculous :D What’s frustrating is that almost nobody cares or is frustrated by it :D

That's actually really interesting. I wonder if there has been any research around this preferred marketing race phenomenon. It's interesting that an asian country would show preference for whites, while a white country shows preference for non-whites. In the US the motivation is entirely political (and a meta layer of playing to political interests). What's the related phenomenon in India about, in your opinion?

Lighter skin is a near-universal beauty ideal, including in cultures with no love of the West. It's apparently biological, and nobody's sure why it's a thing.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by howinteresting »

seneca wrote: post #144
eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

It really has gotten incredibly heavy handed. Their entire marketing campaign for this phone seems to primarily focus on social engineering.

It is frankly ridiculous to call better photos for people of color -- particularly Black people -- "social engineering". There is a very long history of photography methods discriminating against darker skin tones, stretching back at least a century.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/25/lens/sarah-lewis-racial-b...

https://petapixel.com/2015/09/19/heres-a-look-at-how-color-f...

This is a real issue of racial and ethnic justice with material consequences.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by dexterdog »

buu700 wrote: post #178
eric_b wrote: post #135

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Your examples are hilarious and you can imagine how I missed those. Pretend all the photos were reversed, and those were the only two people of color on the whole page. Google would be (rightfully) chastised.

Is it rightful to chastise them either way? It'd be one thing if there were a leaked internal memo saying to exclude a particular race, but this could just as easily be the result of a marketing intern arbitrarily selecting stock photos. Personally, I also didn't notice the presence of white men or lack thereof until you brought it up.

In what statistical universe could it have played out like it did?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by bduerst »

krzyk wrote: post #231

No Face Unlock, bummer. Rumors where that it will be in the 6 Pro, but technical specification doesn't mention it. So I'm staying with Pixel 4, yet another year.

I thought face unlock has been a security vector for the iPhone, and that even Apple is thinking of dropping it?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by threeseed »

gameman144 wrote: post #95
psychometry wrote: post #69

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Thus the manual review. No one's going to be going to prison over a hash collision here.

But a manual reviewer in Cupertino or elsewhere still gets access to your personal (possibly very intimate or otherwise private) photos. Privacy from law enforcement is hardly the only privacy that people value.

They would only have access to the photos that are being reviewed.

And you can either choose between (a) someone having to see your photos or (b) relying on an automated but imperfect process. You have to pick one.

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