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Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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I decided a while ago that I should move away from Chrome and I’ve quite liked Edge but thinking about it I really don’t trust them either. I still don’t love Firefox on Mac OS, what else should I try?

Orion Browser is the new WebKit based browser for Mac which promises direct Chrome/Firefox extension support.

https://browser.kagi.com

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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They've taken away user control over cookies per site years ago. People complained, Mozilla ignored the complaints and somehow this all just blew over because of browser extensions against tracking cookies. There's still no replacement for the "ask me every time" cookie dialog.

Yes. But you can see it all in developer tools. Just not as accessible. At least when you are on that site. Which is a limitation for sure.

> you can see it all in developer tools

Same for Chrome.

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Or Brave. Safari gives me too many issues. Brave has all the compatibility you'd expect from chromium.

I dont know much about Brave but thinking of moving to Brave on Mobile for ad blocking. Is Brave trustworthy for saving my Google credentials and credit card in the Browser?

Also check out Bromite, which is chrome with ad blocking for android.

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Let's remain serious. It is entirely within the capability of modern computers to admit a dialogue which would let the user view their cookies without magically exposing them to websites. There is no non-nefarious reason for this.

I agree, but I suspect this was also what was believed when they originally did it and adversaries found very clever ways to find that cookie store - that part at least is true, which is why I bother mentioning it, given the complexity of browsers it is likely very daunting to redesign this kind of thing around the existing features. Anyways, I'm glad I'm not working on browsers, it seems like an ever-losing cat and…

Those two things are unrelated if there is such interaction and the fix was removing the dialog I would be scared to use that browser.

So whether your theory is true or not, no one should use Chrome.

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I don't get why people think this is a move with some agenda, most likely they just don't think enough people use the single cookie deletion functionality to warrant having it in the settings vs the dev tools.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Make a useful feature difficult to discover, then remove it when few people discover it. The (not insignificant) current barrier for normal users to selectively remove cookies will be made even higher if you ask them to use dev tools. One could imagine a browser vendor who made this workflow easy because they thought it was in the users' best interest. Obviously, that browser vendor i…

I recall being quite pissed when Chrome decided to remove the pick-character-encoding feature essential for digging through archives of older CJK sites. Odd things keep rolling out of the Chrome team with telemetry as their justification. Ah well, how am I supposed to argue against “data”?

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I'm privacy conscious but would not consider looking at such detailed information. For me it's delete all site state on exit. Do people actually look at this stuff?

It's useful in specific cases and certainly nice to have in the main UI. I understand their reasoning for moving them, but I still disagree

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You can't have consumers without producers. Dev tools are an integral tool to building websites and webapps today. They're still receiving considerable investment from browser vendors. I see new features in almost every release.

Browser tools could certainly be un-bundled from the browser itself and distributed behind a "Google Developer" account, with your access cut off if you do something that threatens any of Google's numerous businesses. I believe this is how iOS development works. Admittedly we are very far away from this scenario, but let us not delude ourselves into thinking (a) that it's impossible, or (b) that it's not in Google's…

To what end? What benefit does google get by preventing developers from developing for their product?

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Vivaldi? I certainty trust the people behind that one.

Same engine, they can cripple it easily.

Sure, but a lot of features in Vivaldi run separately from Chromium (like sideloading extensions). I don't see how they would be accepting this change into their fork.
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