Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hmm, you might be right. AppCenter is super useful for crash logs, but do you think it would be an issue for users when concerned with privacy? We don't identify the reports at all, so literally anonymous crash logs. (And AppAnalytics is needed for it to work with SwiftUI, I think? Might be why we're using that.)
I think there are levels to it. Best for privacy would be no crash reporting, but obviously that comes at the cost of no crash logs and needing to do a lot more testing and QA before shipping to get equivalent quality, and that's an engineering trade-off. Custom crash-reporting, where the server is controlled by you, is likely a bit better because it's not going to a third party, but that's another engineering cost.…
Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
251–260 of 336 posts
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#252This really feels like it would have had a better time with a smaller "meet the batch" thread. Given that which startups get to be featured in one of those threads rather than a standalone thread is decided by dang, it almost feels like this thread was intentionally greenlit standalone to start a flamewar. The odds of that are slim, probably, but it seems impossible that anyone thought this was a good idea to give it…
Of course I didn't pick it to intentionally start a flamewar. The things you guys come up with! https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
What was your reasoning, though, over all of the other candidates for standalone posts that instead got a group "meet the batch" thread? I can't think of something more like gasoline than this product/stage-of-development/thread combination.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also tab grouping already exists in the free Vivaldi browser so it's an even less compelling feature to pay for.
Tab groups also exist in chrome, brave and edge (was behind a flag last time I checked), and presumably other chromium-based browsers too
I especially like the auto group feature. I start a search and every link I open in a new tab is added to the group (which is collapsible).
I do a lot of spec digging doe my work. It’s not uncommon to have 3 or 4 tabs per data type with many data types.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#254The sign up form is really annoying to me. I'm already not happy that I need to sign in to use a web browser (and likely to not pay $15/mo for one). But the sign up form keeps adding fields that must be answered before you're done. I'm okay filling out a form... but don't keep teasing that I'm done when I have 10 other questions to finish. This is not a very user friendly pattern.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#255Absolutely no chance I'm paying $15/mo for a browser without: - Extensions - Adblock - No support for CMD+W (?)
Good points! We're working on extensions and Adblock right now, so should be out soon! For CMD-W, we're trying to change how you think about pages to something you "mark as done" as opposed to just "close", and changing the shortcut helps make that change for users. Try it out and let me know if you think it's necessary to support CMD-W :)
Everyone expects a very specific thing, make the current thing go away. Its the same reason you likely picked CMD-k as the shortcut to your pop up window. That's what Slack does along with several other applications.
If you want to map this shortcut to your implementation of "going away" that's fine but it should be the same command.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#256This will actually make me money and help me clock our earlier aside from the headaches I won't have. My life feels more organized and I am happy to have a team that is dedicated to building and improving a product. I have been a freeware/opensource nut for years but as I grow older I have learned the value of my time/happiness vs money. Everything is an investment and I am trading a little bit of cash for a better quality of life at work and time. That is going to be worth it 8 days a week.
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good points! We're working on extensions and Adblock right now, so should be out soon! For CMD-W, we're trying to change how you think about pages to something you "mark as done" as opposed to just "close", and changing the shortcut helps make that change for users. Try it out and let me know if you think it's necessary to support CMD-W :)
You can change what happens when a user hits CMD-w. But CMD-w should still be the trigger. Everyone expects a very specific thing, make the current thing go away. Its the same reason you likely picked CMD-k as the shortcut to your pop up window. That's what Slack does along with several other applications. If you want to map this shortcut to your implementation of "going away" that's fine but it should be the same co…
Right now, it shows a message on the bottom-left asking if you meant to close a page and suggesting "D" as the shortcut instead.
I think adding a classic mode with those shortcuts enabled should solve the issue. What do you think?
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#258While we are giving constructive feedback... The sign up form is really annoying to me. I'm already not happy that I need to sign in to use a web browser (and likely to not pay $15/mo for one). But the sign up form keeps adding fields that must be answered before you're done. I'm okay filling out a form... but don't keep teasing that I'm done when I have 10 other questions to finish. This is not a very user friendly…
We were trying to replicate a Typeform-like feel (questions, one by one) to make it more palatable but the goal isn't to bait you into thinking you're done.
Do you think we're missing something to replicate the feeling of a nice Typeform, or do you think Typeforms in general are similarly annoying for you?
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Of course I didn't pick it to intentionally start a flamewar. The things you guys come up with! https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
I know the rules! I said the odds of it were slim! What was your reasoning, though, over all of the other candidates for standalone posts that instead got a group "meet the batch" thread? I can't think of something more like gasoline than this product/stage-of-development/thread combination.
In this case, these guys are working on something big and the background from which they're approaching the problem seems solid to me.
There's an interesting delta here between how YC thinks about startups and how HN thinks about startups. I'll try to come back and add more to this comment because it's something I've been meaning to write about for a long time.
Edit: here it is...
Think of the current state of a product like this as a point on a plane. When YC funds a startup, they're not so much looking at that point, but rather at the vector it's part of. That includes, yes, current position, but also direction (how it might develop over time) and momentum (how fast it's developing, how capable the founders seem).
When HN evaluates a startup, people really just look at the current product point: how valuable it is right now, i.e. how ready to fill important use cases and how good a business those make for. That's a perfectly fine thing to assess, but it's a totally different assessment. This is the delta that I mentioned above.
Partly this is because of a difference in the amount of information available (YC gets detailed applications, gets to interview founders, works closely with founders during a batch, and so on—HN posts don't provide any of that). But partly also it's a difference in mentality. YC is making decisions from a place of high uncertainty. HN, or at least the critical side of HN, only values what can be demonstrated today and has low tolerance for uncertainty.
For YC, the home runs are funding a company that starts out looking like a toy and ends up developing into a big business. But if the startup does a Launch HN while still at the "toy" stage, HN tends to have a big allergic reaction: "how could YC fund such a thing?", etc. etc. Well, YC is funding such things all the time. That's the core of the business. A few go on to get big and then the startup (or YC) gets to point back at threads like this and say "I told you so". More, of course, never amount to much, and in those cases it's the commenters who get to point back at threads like this and say "I told you so". It's hindsight fallacy in both cases though.
The lesson for Launch HNs might be that it's in a startup's interest not to come to HN while still at the tadpole stage, when people say things like "I can't see how anything productive or useful could have possibly come about from this thread". On the other hand: those are just comments, and only part of the comments at that. There are also bound to be a lot of users who are interested in the vision and willing to try the new thing even if it's in an immature state. So it's actually not so easy to say what's in the startup's best interest.
It's much easier to say what's in HN's best interest: interesting conversation. I'd say we got that here. Alternative/future web browsers are an interesting theme, and while the reception has been mixed, I wouldn't call it a flamewar. It was a bit unpleasant at the negative end, but then other commenters have shown up to compensate for that. That is the natural cycle of many HN threads (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...).
Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work
#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know the rules! I said the odds of it were slim! What was your reasoning, though, over all of the other candidates for standalone posts that instead got a group "meet the batch" thread? I can't think of something more like gasoline than this product/stage-of-development/thread combination.
I'm just guessing at what you all might find interesting. They're informed guesses, but guesses still. In this case, these guys are working on something big and the background from which they're approaching the problem seems solid to me. There's an interesting delta here between how YC thinks about startups and how HN thinks about startups. I'll try to come back and add more to this comment because it's something I'v…