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iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

#251

Build web apps and free yourself from the tyranny of closed ecosystems. It's Closed vs. Open. Only the web is open. 99% of apps on both the Play Store and App Store could be implemented as web apps with no loss in functionality - in fact a very large chunk of them are web apps, simply wrapped in a web view.

If the platforms are equivalent in functionality, then why can't Apple let people freely sideload native apps?

Who claimed the platforms are equivalent in functionality?

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

#252

The mobile landscape presents a very difficult choice. Choose Android, get actual access to your device and install what you want but have your privacy completely trampled upon by Google Choose Apple, get marginally better privacy but no ownership of your phone and no possibility to install what you want. I wish we had a reasonable alternative, it's so frustrating to have to choose between two bad alternatives and th…

We had a third option but developers very publicly refused to support it and Google worked tirelessly to hamstring it in every way they could. Now we're all crying for a third platform because Apple is too restrictive and Google, surprise (to no one least of all WP users), turned out to be evil and I feel absolutely no sympathy for the tech community, particularly developers who decry the current paradigm. We chose t…

Maybe 2022 will be the year of Windows on the phone.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

#253

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I remember several articles from the time the iPad came out that phantasized about how the iPad could replace PCs (as in “Personal Computer”) one day, even from Steve Jobs. Today that idea looks nothing but ludicrous. It was Apple themselves that nipped that notion in the bud, no competition required. If you want to do anything other than gaming and media consumption, don't buy an iDevice.

Your bias is showing, as is your blinkered view of what's possible on an iPad. For many, many people, the iPad absolutely DOES replace having a traditional computer. The prediction came true. I rarely bother traveling with a laptop anymore unless I need to present or run demos. My iPad pro + the fancy keyboard case gives me insane portability and battery life plus access to all my files (via Dropbox), native Office,…

Ironically, it's Apple themselves with the M1 laptops that make the iPad case much less appealing.

The laptop can do everything that the iPad can do except being a touchscreen device.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

#254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember several articles from the time the iPad came out that phantasized about how the iPad could replace PCs (as in “Personal Computer”) one day, even from Steve Jobs. Today that idea looks nothing but ludicrous. It was Apple themselves that nipped that notion in the bud, no competition required. If you want to do anything other than gaming and media consumption, don't buy an iDevice.

Your bias is showing, as is your blinkered view of what's possible on an iPad. For many, many people, the iPad absolutely DOES replace having a traditional computer. The prediction came true. I rarely bother traveling with a laptop anymore unless I need to present or run demos. My iPad pro + the fancy keyboard case gives me insane portability and battery life plus access to all my files (via Dropbox), native Office,…

I have a friend who did the same thing as you (go full-time iPad), but eventually switched to an XPS when his favorite apps started getting pulled. He built a pretty impressive workflow, but it required him to pay for a dev license and do a bunch of other super complicated stuff to maintain it. Once they pulled his favorite emulator (GBA4iOS), it was the last straw.

YMMV, but this guy couldn't even use the device for entertainment/reliable text editing. If that's what it takes to replace a "traditional computer", then I'm pretty sure my left shoe qualifies as one.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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post #146

Sad… I played Kings Quest VI on an ipad with this emulator and it workers great. Why does Apple even care if a few people play some old abandonware on an ipad?

No ability to get a cut of those gaming dollars. Games were specifically listed in the app review email from Apple. A side aspect is running afoul of copyright and that is likely the other significant money spinner / target.

I own Kings Quest VI

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

#256

That's fcking my mobile. I paid for it. I own it. If I want to install something on my owned device, who the f is Apple to stop it? Think about it this way: A chair supplier telling Apple to only allow it's employees to sit a certain way. Or architects telling it to only build their HQ's a certain way. Not as an advice, but, enforced. How ridiculous is that!

I don't think they should remove it, but I also don't think it's that ridiculous. Apple has always been against tools that allow execution of arbitrary code. Which is fair; it gives applications on the App Store the ability to bypass review. At some point it's on you as the consumer to understand the limitations you're signing up for when you get an iPhone.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

#257

I guess we need a congressional bill that lets people sideload apps on their phone. It seems ridiculous to have to get to that level but apparently that’s the only way. We have some progress now on right to repair. Next up, right to use.

No. Just no... We need another PC revolution for phones. Not every problem has to be solved by force or coercion.

Not every problem, no. But I don’t see the invisible hand of the market fixing this one. I don’t think most users care about how open their technology is; the downsides are too nebulous and distant to drive consumer spending away from walled gardens.

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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Re: Android, I tried to log out of YouTube on my phone yesterday. It said "Sure, as long as you don't mind logging out of GMail too." I was taken aback by this -- I didn't realise this was a hostage situation.

If you cannot uninstall the youtube app, you should be able to freeze it (with adb). (then take a look at youtube vanced)

NewPipe is an excellent YouTube client. (Though you should add their repo instead of using the outdated version that comes with fdroid.)

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

#259

How funny it is to remove this app because it "loads executable" as they released Swift Playground years ago... Plus the new feature of creating and packaging your iOS / iPadOS app + uploading it, directly on the iPad. Apple seems to contradict its own rules since a few years now.

The rules include a limited exception for educational purposes, which Swift Playgrounds also falls under.

And when did they make that exception?

Re: iDOS 2 will be gone soon

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post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No ability to get a cut of those gaming dollars. Games were specifically listed in the app review email from Apple. A side aspect is running afoul of copyright and that is likely the other significant money spinner / target.

I own Kings Quest VI

Doesn't matter. They don't get a cut.
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