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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by Consultant32452 »

jl6 wrote: post #151
paxys wrote: post #72

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Twitter started off as a low-effort life blog, and is now almost entirely a platform for amplifying celebrities and politicians. It definitely needs more normal people tweeting about normal things.

Twitter has loads of normal people tweeting about normal things, but they are down in the very, very long tail, and ~nobody follows them. Into the void they scream.

Exactly. And most importantly those normal people are not profitable. Even collectively, they do not outmatch the top 0.1% of posters in engagement.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by Conlectus »

bachmeier wrote: post #119
partiallypro wrote: post #86

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Which IMO is why Twitter allowing users to lock their replies is actually damaging to Twitter. Now people just Quote Tweet it instead of replying.

I understand the motivation behind allowing users to lock replies, but you don't need Twitter for that type of content. Twitter sucks for just about anything other than interaction.

Twitter also sucks for meaningful interaction, in my opinion.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by jdminhbg »

AzzieElbab wrote: post #166
mdoms wrote: post #60

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I use Tweet Delete[0] to auto-delete my tweets older than a month. I see no value in keeping old tweets around, especially compared to the risk that I inadvertently become briefly well-known and some wokes decide to trawl my timeline, take some tweet from 12 years ago out of context and convince my employer that I'm racist or something. Seen it happen too many times. [0] https://tweetdelete.net/

deleting tweets is somewhat pointless when you consider existence of things like wayback machine.

The Wayback Machine isn't searchable, or at least not nearly as searchable as Twitter itself. If I have a fight with you now, I can just go to search.twitter.com and put in "bad word from:AzzieElbab" and find any of your bad tweets. To use the Wayback Machine to get you in trouble, I have to know ahead of time what you said and at what URL to use it against you later.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by toss1 »

kyrofa wrote: post #213
saurik wrote: post #182

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Instead of rendering it as hidden or even as an edit history, render it with an "inline diff" (using the kind of algorithm you see Wikipedia do, or GitHub within a line) as a cross-out of the old content and the next content next to it... changing a lot of text like that would be extremely noisy and obvious--to the point where it wouldn't accomplish any evil goal and would also just be generally discouraged by its na…

I don't think it needs to be that in-your-face. I believe an inline "this tweet has been edited" link to a revision history or diff would thwart most abuse.

I think it does need to be that in-your-face-obvious. people reading/responding quickly will often fail to check and edit link/button

Plus, having the strikethru + new_text visibly highlighted could enable whole new formats of jokes

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by kalleboo »

It's been interesting to see the uneven adoption of Fleets. I have two Twitter accounts, one I use for English-language stuff and tech, and one I use for Japanese-language stuff, friends, culture. On the English one, nearly no fleets at all. Maybe once a day.

On the Japanese one, the fleets are packed. The feature was SUPER popular in Japan!

As Instagram moves away from people sharing stories (they recently announced a new focus - "shopping", and competing with TikTok), I could only see Twitter fleets getting even more popular here.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by twoknee »

ALittleLight wrote: post #228
dfabulich wrote: post #191

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It's not just technical. Jack doesn't want it. https://www.wired.com/story/jack-dorsey-wont-get-edit-tweet-... > Dorsey was unusually direct: “The answer is no,” he says. > “The reason there's no edit button [and] there hasn't been an edit button traditionally is we started as an SMS text messaging service," explains Dorsey. "So as you all know, when you send a text, you can’t really take it back. We wanted to preser…

But there is a delete button for tweets...

He did expressly state "vibe and feeling."

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by markmark »

lazycouchpotato wrote: post #255

Twitter hides a lot of features for third party apps using their API. I probably would have given it a try if they would have made it available to third party apps.

Yeah I use tweetdeck on desktop and a third party app on mobile. Neither had fleets so I didn't know they existed.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by yakshaving_jgt »

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #210
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #50

> Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting Did Fleets address the problem of political extremists using Twitter to go after people's livelihoods?

They probably do actually - they disappear after a short time and you can't link to them.

I suppose that would help in the scenario where people go digging up old tweets, but it’s also pretty common for people to screenshot content, knowing that it might later be deleted or amended.

I’m not sure there’s any getting around that the culture on Twitter for whatever reason is toxic.

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