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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Does anyone else see 10 vertical lines of characters that look like the ‘matrix’ font overlaid on the word ‘yog so Thoth’ in the last two lines of qwertious’ post?

Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Actually, Alibaba appears to have higher standards for their product listings, because pages are never merged. So the review takeover described in this post would not be possible on Alibaba ^_^

Which makes you wonder why Amazon keeps this scam-enabling "feature". Do legit sellers really need it that much that Amazon keeps it despite the scams?

Amazon tacitly supports this scam because it only cares about sales. It doesn't really care about the sellers.

It also knows that positive reviews have a huge influence in increasing sales, and negative reviews really dampens sales. This is why Amazon also allows what I call Product Page Hijacking.

How this works is, Amazon allows multiple models or variants of a product to be listed on the same page, so that all their reviews are mixed together. This deceptive practice hoodwinks many customers. There are 2 kinds of product page hijacking - somewhat obvious ones and the really sneaky kind.

Example of a somewhat obvious one - https://imgur.com/OfZLUeL - here, one product page actually lists multiple router models that have different features and configurations. While it is a bit obvious, the buyer still has to carefully read the reviews to figure out what model the review is about.

Example of the sneaky ones are products that only partially list their model number, and list and sell slightly different variants of model under a single product page.

E.g search for "TP-Link WR841" in https://dd-wrt.com/support/router-database/ - there are 9 variants of the same model (in essence, 9 different models) that are differentiated by a version number (v9, v10, v11 etc. after their model name).

But instead of creating a product page for each variant - "TP-Link WR841N v9" or "TP-Link WR841N v11" or "TP-Link WR841N v13" - only one product page is created under "TP-Link WR841N" and all the variants are sold under it. The variations in the models are sometimes not minor - some of the variants have a higher RAM and even totally different CPU! Since all the variants are sold under one product page, the reviews posted are actually for all these different variants. But the buyer will often have no idea of that. And they may not even receive the product they think the reviews are recommending!

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, Alibaba appears to have higher standards for their product listings, because pages are never merged. So the review takeover described in this post would not be possible on Alibaba ^_^

Which makes you wonder why Amazon keeps this scam-enabling "feature". Do legit sellers really need it that much that Amazon keeps it despite the scams?

There is not much to wonder about, Amazon does it because it critical to their fulfillment service, one of the key ways amazon makes money and keeps it 1-2 day delivery times is inventory mixing, i.e if you order from Seller X, you may actually get Stock that Seller Y shipped in.

This is why they need to merge listings into 1. It is also why there is soo much fraud on Amazon, and I dont believe they will ever fix it, the logistic costs would make Fulfilled by Amazon unprofitable if they had to stop mixing stock

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Don't buy this guy's klein bottles, they're a scam - they're only THREE dimensional! Such a rip off. How am I supposed to store a ŷ̶̺̎͌͐̿̽̊́̕ŏ̶̗̈́̓̍̎̃͠g̶̝̺̜̜͋̿̚ͅ-̷̧̛̈́̔́s̷̰̀͌́̈́ơ̷̝̭̫͛́͘ẗ̴̹̱̖̥́h̸̡̡͙̻̀o̸̹̘̾̀͗̇̕t̵̗̠̄̽̈́͑ḧ̵̳̰̩̲͈̜͉̝́́͌͐ in this thing?

Does anyone else see 10 vertical lines of characters that look like the ‘matrix’ font overlaid on the word ‘yog so Thoth’ in the last two lines of qwertious’ post?

That's He Who Shall Not Be Named's hand reaching into the material world, making himself known to all who would dare parse HTML with regular expressions.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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It's hard to give up the convenience and fast delivery (with Amazon Prime) though. In my experience, I haven't run into many problems with fraud or fake products (that I know of). I try to avoid third party sellers and only order from Amazon or the seller.

Fast delivery seems to have become an addiction in our fast-paced lives. Do we really need that new thing tomorrow? Probably not. Yet we can't delay the gratification.

Well from a business stand point, I know we have shifted alot of our daily supply things for IT from a "Keep 10 of these instock at all times" to "Just order it from Amazon as needed" due to the faster delivery time

Just as Manufactures have shifted to JIT for many parts on the production line, other business processes have as well.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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It has only really now dawned on me that I really do need to take my Amazon custom elsewhere. Amazon is not a place to do my shopping any more and inertia is not really a good enough excuse for not taking my quantum of influence somewhere else.

So I am shopping around for alternative marketplaces for books and general goods. Not groceries - never really fell for that Amazon offer.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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This, and other instances of this scam make me not want to buy anything off Amazon ever again. Where is Amazon in this? Why is this even a thing ? Is there no oversight at all? Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west and it makes me sick to think the once beloved marketplace is now just scamville. I typically buy from sellers websites now and rarely buy off of Amazon but now I feel I need to completely remove A…

"Amazon has now become the Alibaba of the west" Alibaba is much better than Amazon about seller verification. Look up, say, "PC power supply". On Amazon, you're lucky if you get the address of the seller and a product image. Alibaba gives you multiple detailed pictures of the object, including its data plate. You get the full address of the seller, and whether it's the manufacturer or a reseller. There's usually a pi…

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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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What is ironic is that there is an annual Award given to an AWS employee called the Cliff Stoll Award: For those individuals who see something suspicious, not working as expected, show ownership and drive it to resolution. As Cliff did to find a KGB spy, and documented in "The Cuckoo's Egg". I wonder what would happen if someone at Amazon pulled on this thread and not only solved Cliff's problem but also the root cau…

Plot twist: the root cause is greed

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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It has only really now dawned on me that I really do need to take my Amazon custom elsewhere. Amazon is not a place to do my shopping any more and inertia is not really a good enough excuse for not taking my quantum of influence somewhere else. So I am shopping around for alternative marketplaces for books and general goods. Not groceries - never really fell for that Amazon offer.

Why not order directly from the vendor itself rather than looking for a marketplace?

Books can still be sourced from Books-A-Million, Barns & Noble, as well as local shops.

If I'm looking for choices for a solution, I'll use a marketplace, but after I find a solution, I'll order straight from the vendor itself

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