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Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by bmarquez »

smoldesu wrote: post #83
vlunkr wrote: post #81

I really don't understand Brave. What special thing do they offer that people actually want? The main concrete selling point seems to built-in ad blockers, but we've had that for ages in every other browser. They have some crypto stuff going on, I'll be honest, I don't understand it, because I don't care, I just want to browse the web. That should be possible without a blockchain. They claim performance is better, bu…

People want a browser with an ad-blocker, and are too lazy to configure it themselves. Brave adds it and starts some "tell your friends" marketing hype. The rest writes itself.

It's not just laziness. My elderly parents aren't technically inclined, and are quite stubborn to learn.

After they were phished by a malicious banner ad, I told them to install Brave since the idea of browser extensions would go over their heads.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by annoyingnoob »

jonathansampson wrote: post #243
annoyingnoob wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm concerned about what happens to data Brave collects when Brave decides to sell itself. At some point they could be attractive to acquire.

Brave doesn't collect user data. We believe in Can't be Evil over Don't be Evil .

Define 'user data'.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by smithza »

zzyzxd wrote: post #87
mrpf1ster wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DuckDuckGo allows you to do a Google search by prepending "!g" to any query. So usually I do that for the last 5% of queries that DDG fails on.

The frustration I am talking about is: Check query result -> realize the result is bad -> scroll back to the search bar -> place cursor at the beginning of the query -> enter "!g" -> redirect to Google.com It is not too bad on desktop, but doing it once on a smartphone is more than enough to push me to switch back to Google.

most browsers support to hop the cursor to the url bar for searches or url entries

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by throwaway292893 »

azinman2 wrote: post #246
throwaway292893 wrote: post #236

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Yes lets all grab pitchforks and chase him out of town because of his religious beliefs. So sick of leftists and your constant attacks in the name of diversity. Go find a hobby, you're not trying to further any cause or help anyone, you're just looking to cause drama and attack people. It was the majority opinion to oppose same-sex marriage. Are we going to cancel everyone who once or still supports it? Remember we a…

First, I’m not looking to cause drama or attack anyone. I’m genuinely curious and to know what changed? It was a big deal then, but seems to never surface with anything Brave related since. And as they make bigger and bigger splashes, and this continues to not come up, I’m wondering why that is? You’re making a lot of assumptions about me, my motives, and belief structures. I’m just seeing a change in behavior on thi…

You know exactly what you're doing. It wasn't a big deal then, and it shouldn't be a big deal now. It's cancel culture and you're participating in it.

This is an amazing release and I'm glad Brave revived the technical marvel that was Cliqz, you can see that on display in their blog: https://www.0x65.dev/

But no, you decided to bring up bullshit drama. You're not generally curious, and even if you were, it's not really on topic. It's negative and non-constructive.

You fool no one when you hide behind your "I was just asking a question" defense. You knew ahead of time what your question would provoke.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by unicornporn »

zzyzxd wrote: post #46

Previous related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26328758 If things go as planned, this may become a paid, ad-free, zero-tracking search engine. I can't express how exciting this is to me. Over the past few years, I have made several attempts to replace Google Search with DuckDuckGo. But they have all failed and I always ended up changing the default search engine back to Google. I mean, DDG worked f…

> I mean, DDG worked fine for 95% of time, but the remaining 5% failure often led to some extreme frustration that I just couldn't stand.

So, just use https://startpage.com/ and get proxied Google results. Searx is another alternative.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by Semaphor »

jonathansampson wrote: post #222
aazaa wrote: post #193

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It redirects to Google. So the effect (including tracking) is identical to just doing a Google search.

This is incorrect. Fallback-Mixing , if you have enabled it (which requires Brave), issues an anonymous query to Google, lacking any cookies or other persistent state for that domain. These results are then presented along with Brave Search's own results. There's no tracking involved. If you perform a direct Google search, you're passing along your cookies as well.

The user was replying to using DDG with !g

In an indirect way, it’s possible by doing !sp on DDG, which redirects the search to startpage, which shows untracked google results.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by smoldesu »

celsoazevedo wrote: post #232
smoldesu wrote: post #213

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...except those "rewards" don't ever reach the creators pockets, unless they're savvy enough to make their own ERC wallet and go through the collection process.

"If a publisher has not verified ownership, then a user’s contributions will be held in reserve inside the browser for 90 days. [...] At the end of the 90 day period, any contributions marked for unverified publishers will be released back to the wallet. No funds leave the browser except to go to verified creators." https://brave.com/faq-rewards/#unclaimed-funds

Case in point.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by open-paren »

jonathansampson wrote: post #248
open-paren wrote: post #219

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If that's all that's offered, why does DDG's obscure shebangs work on Brave Search? https://search.brave.com/search?q=!hn+brave+search

Oh, apologies for the confusion. We support DDG's shebangs too; the above list is what we add to the list.

No worries. Congrats on the launch.

Re: Brave Search beta

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Post by meinfuhrer »

My first impressions using this are really good. I've been using DDG on mobile for many months (while sticking with Google on the desktop), but increasingly grew frustrated with the overall speed, and results on some queries...so I reluctantly switched back to Google on mobile this week.

Unfortunately, looks like there's no way to set this as the default on Samsung Internet at the moment so I'm going to stick with Google for now.

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