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Firefox Release 89.0

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Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by SkyMarshal »

The new design language looks beautiful imho. They characterize it as the following, and I think they nailed it:

>Cohesive, calmer visuals: Lighter iconography, a refined color palette, and more consistent styling throughout.

Also the cookie-handling update, moving Total Cookie Protection from strict mode to normal mode, is a good thing especially for non-techie users:

>We’ve enhanced the privacy of the Firefox Browser’s Private Browsing mode with Total Cookie Protection, which confines cookies to the site where they were created, preventing companies from using cookies to track your browsing across sites. This feature was originally launched in Firefox’s ETP Strict mode.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by Beaving »

ironMonkey wrote: post #126

I update and the Mac's native sharing is gone. Wondering if the company employs product managers responsible for Mac features (i know it's complex to handle various capabilities for different OS versions) because i assume a storm of negative feedback is coming.

widget.macos.native-context-menus

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by danielEM »

my 3 cents here would be: I wish I could have an option to install full desktop version of Firefox on my mobile. There is no performance or memory obstacles any more.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by Scarbutt »

sirn wrote: post #154
ivanche wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you've already mentioned it - I hear that Firefox has non-native context menus all the time, but for the life of me couldn't tell any difference between "native" and "non-native" context menus. Anybody has any proof/example of this?

https://files.grid.in.th/vKeXJQ.png It looks close, but details and behavior are a bit off. For example: - Firefox context menu does not respect system's dark mode - Different horizontal and vertical margins between items - Different font rendering (e.g. text looks bolder) - Different right caret icon For behavior difference, for example: when navigating sub-menu items, macOS uses cursor velocity and cursor direction…

That tabwrangler extension is great, thanks!

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by joosters »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #59
csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

UI design is like fashion design, often trying to catch your eye. Sometimes trying to be edgy or controversial, to provoke a reaction.

'Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months.'

I see that the Firefox UI designers agree that it's like fashion design...

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by EMRZ »

csmpltn wrote: post #24

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use." Why does the UI change with every single Firefox release? I find myself having to re-adjust every time a new update is shipped. What's wrong with having a consistent experience that survives for more than 6 months? It's just a URL bar, and a bunch of tabs. Just leave it be already.

> "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use."

This usually means we reskinned and somehow ended with it being slower.

Also the whole release notes are UI changes, particulary for mac ?

I wished the only non-chromium browser with active development was.. idk, different?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by francoisz »

megous wrote: post #214
gjm11 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Firefox is not free software because it is able to run un-free binary blobs on your computer, then the same is true of (e.g.) Linux.

Yeah, just disable the loader if you don't like it. Kinda unfair to call the whole system unfree for just being able to load non-free software.

What put me off the most was that there was no warning: I had to know what DRM meant or run unfree software without realizing it. But, as was pointed out, this is also true of most Linux distrubutions, which is bad. There should be a clear warning and the default should be nothing unfree.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by myfonj »

j_4 wrote: post #237
forgotpwd16 wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What features are you talking about?

E.g. the last update removed right click -> open image, which I used all the time to view images in full screen. Now there's only an option to open the image in a new tab, which requires additional clicks to achieve the same thing.

Plus clicking the original "Open image" with middle mouse button (or invoking with alt+enter, IIRC) always did exactly what new command does, opened image in new tab.

New command apparently lacks alternative usage forcing current tab, but still opens image in new window instead of tab with Ctrl modifier. (Maybe it would be possible to plead for re-introduction of similar modifier?)

At least we can still drag/n/drop plain images to the Tab bar.

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by n3k5 »

acqq wrote: post #166
throwaddzuzxd wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't be over dramatic. It's still tabs and an URL bar, there's nothing to adjust to.

Even the back button is wrong in the new version. Previously it spanned up to the left edge of the window. Now it's moved to the right, lacks immediate feedback and then it is drawn to the right with some new empty space for no reason but to make it harder to hit the back button, the most used button of the interface. The visual cue with the circle around it is also gone. Even the lines used to draw the arrow are thi…

> Even the back button is wrong in the new version. Previously it spanned up to the left edge of the window.

When you actually try it instead of comparing screenshots, you'll see that its clickable area still goes all the way to the edge of the window. The button hasn't moved to the right; there's just more negative space because they removed the circle around it. Deleting that space would actually move the button to the left and make it more difficult to hit. As it is, it's as easy to hit as ever, and the “empty space” isn't there “for no reason”. (Moving it closer to the edge would actually be a mistake; there needs to be some margin for situations where pointing close to the edge changes the cursor's function to resizing the window.)

> lacks immediate feedback

How so? As soon as the mouse pointer touches the clickable area, the button lights up; after a second of hovering, I get a tool-tip explaining what it does, what the keyboard shortcut is, and how I can use it to show the tab's history. Again, that seems the same as it used to be?

Re: Firefox Release 89.0

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Post by zschuessler »

fabioz wrote: post #169

I'm a long time user of FF. I really don't like the UI changes in this upgrade, but setting: "browser.proton.enabled" to false "browser.uidensity" to 1 (while using the `System Theme`) Seems to have done the trick, so, I can just ignore the UI changes (which is great)... fingers crossed in that this keeps working in the future. UI changes are very much subjective, so, I think that it's great that some people like the…

Thanks for sharing this. Before reading this, I was just about to install Chrome again for the first time in years.

For anyone not familiar with how to edit the browser config, simply type in 'about:config' into your URL bar and have at it.

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