Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B • Hacker News Board

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by dweekly » Mon, May 03, 2021, 7:47 PM UTC

dboreham wrote: post #230

dweekly wrote: post #115

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The reason why they are heavily marketing their mmWave 5G is because they are charging an additional $10/mo/line for access and implying (falsely) that most folks with a modern phone will experience a much faster and lower latency connection at most times. In truth, consumers will only be able to connect to the mmWave network on a handful of outdoor street corners in a few metros - the frequency band (60GHz) does not…

I got the impression the primary use case for 60GHz was large sports stadia.

Yes - dense environments with good line-of-sight should work well for 60GHz (train stations, airports, concerts). Enormous channel capacity for a short, straight hop.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by lanstin » Mon, May 03, 2021, 7:47 PM UTC

oblio wrote: post #212

ethbr0 wrote: post #114

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There's two dead companies in that title, and the only live one owns content. Fair point: in a rapidly shifting marketplace, owning the well / mine is the best bet.

Didn't you, historically, want to be the person selling shovels?

Is that Cisco or Sun in this analogy?

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by spullara » Mon, May 03, 2021, 7:47 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #74

oaththrowaway wrote: post #23

Yahoo employee here... AMA

Is Yahoo actually turning a profit, if so which service contribute the most? Also, are there any stats explaining why so Yahoo still have so many daily visitors? Is it just result of having a ton of service and then the numbers afe bundled? It seems hard to understand that pages like Yahoo (or msn.com) would attract so many users as the Alexa ranking would suggest.

Comscore ranks Verizon's properties (basically Yahoo/AOL) as the #2 site on the internet as well.

https://www.comscore.com/Insights/Rankings

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by throwaway894345 » Mon, May 03, 2021, 7:56 PM UTC

Ashanmaril wrote: post #240

sfifs wrote: post #207

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It probably wasn't a path to internal promotions any more :-)

Give it a year or 2, it'll be rebooted with a messaging feature

Nah,they’ll try to make it tiktok for stocks.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by ketamine__ » Mon, May 03, 2021, 7:59 PM UTC

mssundaram wrote: post #205

throwaway3699 wrote: post #171

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Just FYI, 'conservative investors' do understand crypto, they just think it's a bad investment.

Certainly not all of them. Edit - do you not consider Warren Buffet a conservative investor?

Most people claiming they understand (risk, tradeoffs, market, actual adoption) cryptocurrencies are lying to themselves. It's easier to buy $KWEB than read an article written by Vitalik Buterin.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by Animats » Mon, May 03, 2021, 8:10 PM UTC

Good. Large companies should not both be in both transmission and content. It's a conflict of interest. Remember the "zero rating" issue for cellular.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by deeblering4 » Mon, May 03, 2021, 8:12 PM UTC

ethbr0 wrote: post #235

oblio wrote: post #212

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Didn't you, historically, want to be the person selling shovels?

Depends on how close you were to the 1800s -- widespread steam power & hydraulic mining. Mining shovels became worthless. People who owned exploitable resources continued to make money. (Also, denim)

It's a figure of speech. "Shovels" being the tools, e.g. shovels, hydraulic equipment, etc.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, May 03, 2021, 8:12 PM UTC

lanstin wrote: post #252

oblio wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't you, historically, want to be the person selling shovels?

Is that Cisco or Sun in this analogy?

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Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by ajmurmann » Mon, May 03, 2021, 8:14 PM UTC

mohanmcgeek wrote: post #175

ConceptJunkie wrote: post #166

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Google seems to get tired of its own products very easily, and just kills them, even if they are popular.

Or makes them worse by "developing" them Eg: Google Chrome on Android

I really wish there was incentive to have products be "done". It seems that so many products get to a great state and then get made worse over time because we need continuous growth (Evernote immediately comes to mind. Others seem to feel similar about 1Password) or in the case of Google, get shut down.

Re: Verizon Sells AOL and Yahoo to Apollo for $5B

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Post by ethbr0 » Mon, May 03, 2021, 8:15 PM UTC

deeblering4 wrote: post #257

ethbr0 wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on how close you were to the 1800s -- widespread steam power & hydraulic mining. Mining shovels became worthless. People who owned exploitable resources continued to make money. (Also, denim)

It's a figure of speech. "Shovels" being the tools, e.g. shovels, hydraulic equipment, etc.

Point being that "shovels" change. Everyone always wants water or gold.